Vladimir said:
For detail analysis they are great. They help bring out background effects so you notice it more when listening on speakers.
So headphones can help to understand the track more.
Maybe ill give them another go
For detail analysis they are great. They help bring out background effects so you notice it more when listening on speakers.
So headphones can help to understand the track more.
Maybe ill give them another go
Andrewjvt said:
Having the soundstage inside my head and feeling them clamping on my ears, simply annoys me too much for critical listening. When I'm on the move I love headphones and nothing bothers me due to the distraction. This is why I bought the AKG K702, very light and the open back design makes a wide soundstage, airy sound, they breathe (compromise is the low bass). But still not perfect. Not willing to spend on head speakers like the AKG K1000 or Stax, yet.
Vladimir said:
Mine are semi closed but they still annoy the person next and i can still hear outside?
Is that what you mean?
Andrewjvt said:
Open cans breathe well and your ears don't sweat, you don't feel claustrophobic. Also open designs push the soundstage forward and wider than closed. There is less of that pounding in the middle of your head feeling.
stereoman
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Never ever by music genre ! I choose one of two CDs that I have known by heart for years but generally it does not matter so much. I start with loudspeakers' sound. If known CDs or any other ones sound really good to me then it will be obvious that given speakers will reproduce each music genre as good. Then you have a more easier job. Amp comes next. Choosing rather between bipolar or mosfets is always a dilemma - I personally tend towards MosFets though many good ones are simply bipolar based. With amps it is a bit easier. Any amp above 1000 Euro (new) will be rather quite good. Then comes a good CD player and TT.
I never really did a good job trying to explain what I meant I do love a wide range of music not just the classic rock , metal .stereoman said:
there are some traits that I look for when Buying a amplifier and new speakers that makes heavy metal and classic rock sound good and that is nice lower down bass , impact , attack , good midrange good soundstage , good top end , good start / stop speed . Basically I want the drums to sound true to the real thing .
The amplifier needs to be able to keep up with there's demands a specially speed a good power supply to handle the bass properly .
most of theses things people kind of look for anyway so in a way I was trying to say compatibility with speakers and amplifier .
I started to learn about the specifications on amplifiers and speakers to find out how they effect each other in the sound you get from the two but apart from that I know about watts and ohms anyway .
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Blacksabbath25 said:
Yes, I think I know what you mean. I know you're glad with your system. Yamaha AS2100 as we mentioned is an excellent amp but MosFet amps are known for their delicate and crispy sound. I listen to metal only from time to time but for you MosFets can be perhaps a bit unsuitable ? Also the snappy revealing sound you seem to look for is the one that demands typical monitor sound with large drivers. It's only my guess. I'm personally a fan of HiFi speakers that share monitor sound features.
the Dali opticon 8s I have go very well with my Yamaha they seem a good match very clear in sound , good bass , very smooth . But you no what this hobby is like I might come across a speaker that's even better then what I have now but I am not looking for anything .stereoman said:
i have worked with theses speakers to get the very best out of them in making sure I found the right matching amplifier that suits them best .
stereoman
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Blacksabbath25 said:
True, there is never ever an end with this hobby...and this is the beauty of it.
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Hi Sabbath...I think you might really like a transmission line speaker from pmc.....what they can do with rock and pretty much anything you care to throw at them is......well....good....pmc twenty 24's for your taste me thinks.I haven't heard the new twenty 5 range but from what I've read...there's a slight lift in the treble making them appear a bit bright in some systems but the twenty range should be on the list if you ever ponder a wee change.
Marks comment re the PMC's ability with metal was again interesting to me and confirmed my opinion (the common held opinion i believe) regarding synergy between an amp and the speakers it drives being of utmost importance.
I've previously owned two PMC speakers, the GB1i's and the Twenty 23's. In hindsight I think I preferred the GB1i's with metal. I am of the opinion it's a fantastic genre to test your set up with. I'm not suggesting the GB1i's were the better pair, just a better combination with the Roksan amplification I paired both speakers with at the time. I found the Twenty 23's thoroughly disappointing.
When I went to my current speakers the sound reproduction I was seeking (especially with metal) was bang on the money. Before my upgrade to actives I was sure the weak link in my systyem was the amplification and resulting lack of synergy. I could easily have changed the amp and found the perfect combo but I'm happy with my choice and enjoying the read about others attempting to solve this seemingly never ending conundrum.
I've previously owned two PMC speakers, the GB1i's and the Twenty 23's. In hindsight I think I preferred the GB1i's with metal. I am of the opinion it's a fantastic genre to test your set up with. I'm not suggesting the GB1i's were the better pair, just a better combination with the Roksan amplification I paired both speakers with at the time. I found the Twenty 23's thoroughly disappointing.
When I went to my current speakers the sound reproduction I was seeking (especially with metal) was bang on the money. Before my upgrade to actives I was sure the weak link in my systyem was the amplification and resulting lack of synergy. I could easily have changed the amp and found the perfect combo but I'm happy with my choice and enjoying the read about others attempting to solve this seemingly never ending conundrum.
No piece of audio equipment, especially speakers, is best at everything. Every component has sonic flaws in one or more areas when compared against the stiffest competition.Blacksabbath25 said:
There's plenty of equipment, especially speakers, that sound mediocre in every important sonic area. When you get to World Class speakers you will find that they tend to excel with certain types of music when compared to other World Class speakers.
As a very rough generalisation:
Electrostatics for chamber music due to their lack of boxiness and magically transparent midrange.
Huge sealed box speakers for disco, electronica, for their tight, toe-tapping bass.
Large B&W's or ATC's for playing "Recording Engineer" for analysing how the track was recorded.
Horns for brass instruments.
Huge horns. Good all rounders. Amplifier unfussy.
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