Room Set Up

[sheggs]

Hi all,

We have been looking at how to try and demystify room acoustics and crucially how to get the best out of your room set up for some time. I thought that our acoustics primer went in too much on the science so we've written a new article which I hope achieves this -

http://gikacoustics.co.uk/basics-room-setup-acoustic-panels-bass-traps/

Does this type of article help you?

 

[Al ears]

Perhaps you should declare if you are employed by this firm as advertising like this is, I believe, not allowed on this forum

 

[sheggs]

Sorry Al I do post on here and am not just about selling our products. We do work a lot on articles to help the education of room acoustics in general. Would you prefer if I posted the article on here with any company references removed? I think most people would know I am the General Manager but I don't put lionks or references to our products in my posts in general

 

[andyrich_2000]

Good article but could do with some illustrations of ideal set up for different room types.

 

[sheggs]

Good article but could do with some illustrations of ideal set up for different room types.

Thanks good idea, what type of rooms were you thinking?

 

[CJSF]

Mmm . . . as always seems to happen in these forums, no one will experiment, just throwing money at the problem which often does not fully work if post issue coments are anything to go by? I have a reputation as a 'tweaker' . . . my tweaks are usualy preceded by a 'bodge' to see if I'm thinking in the right direction, rarly does the bodge cost much or anything at all, I use what is to hand in my shed, beg, borrow, steel.

In the case of room treatment, the bodge was (still is*pardon*) a thick double blanket folder in half twice, and pinned on the wall wigwam style with two 7ft garden cains. The most that will cost is a couple of garden cains from the garden center, no blankets, use a douve.

I have read verious bits and seen YouTube video, I have proved my room sounds 'a lot!!!' better with absoring panels than without. For personal reasons I still have not gone the whole hog with custom panels, its going to happen soon . . .

 

[Jim-W]

If I had an arrangement involving 7 ft garden canes in a wigwam I'd be planting sweet peas; I think this would add colour and fragrance to the music whilst reflecting your undoubted singularity. Do give it a try and let us know.

 

[CJSF]

If I had an arrangement involving 7 ft garden canes in a wigwam I'd be planting sweet peas; I think this would add colour and fragrance to the music whilst reflecting your undoubted singularity. Do give it a try and let us know.

Exactly my point, no one can be bothered, just throw money in any old direction, some s**t might stick . . . my sweet peas and beans did well this year, try French Cobra climing beans, tender, tasty no stingy edges. Room treatment is no joke.

Just stuck my blanket up, going to spend the rest of the day listening to some good music . . . *smile* Archers first on iPlayer, she says . . . *pardon*

 

[Jim-W]

This is more like it: sweet peas, climbing beans and The Archers and, more importantly, a sense of humour. With so many people asking how to play and clean records, a sense of humour goes a long way on this forum. Mind you, I never type what I'm thinking...I daren't.

Anyway, it's time to swap cables, adjust the azimuth again, clean my newly-purchased records and head off towards audio nirvana. Some people say it doesn't exist. Phttt. Jokers.

 

[Andy Clough]

Sorry Al I do post on here and am not just about selling our products. We do work a lot on articles to help the education of room acoustics in general. Would you prefer if I posted the article on here with any company references removed? I think most people would know I am the General Manager but I don't put lionks or references to our products in my posts in general

Hi sheggs, if you could just add your job title and company name to your signature in your account settings then it will be clear you are a member of the trade. See House Rule No.10:

http://www.whathifi.com/house-rules

 

[CJSF]

This is more like it: sweet peas, climbing beans and The Archers and, more importantly, a sense of humour. With so many people asking how to play and clean records, a sense of humour goes a long way on this forum. Mind you, I never type what I'm thinking...I daren't.

Anyway, it's time to swap cables, adjust the azimuth again, clean my newly-purchased records and head off towards audio nirvana. Some people say it doesn't exist. Phttt. Jokers.

Ah, thats better, a couple of hours of some 60's and 70's classics, including classic Beach Boys, 'the Very Best of'. The sound quality and mastering on that CD is still some of the best, and with my 'bodged' room treatment in place, all the odd room harmonics simply disapear, the sound stage becomes so airy in width and depth . . . yes Jim, musical nirvana from my Rega Apollo R and Rega DAC . . . its dinner time!

CJSF

 

[stevebrock]

ok here goes,

on the whole I am happy with my room acoustics - however on some recordings both vinyl/digital I do get a bit of bass bloom

room is 4m x 5m - i have a chimney breast speakers are either side of breast, breast is 2m wide so speakers 2.3 m apart, speakers are way out of the alcove however i expect i am getting some serious reflection in the alcoves???? have a Expedit in one alcove - thinking about panels in each alcove

I have the house free at weekend so i may give Cliffs contraption )) a go

its free so worth a punt to see if I can get some favourable results

PS Cliff still liking the Apollo R/DAC combo ???

 

[CJSF]

ok here goes,

on the whole I am happy with my room acoustics - however on some recordings both vinyl/digital I do get a bit of bass bloom

room is 4m x 5m - i have a chimney breast speakers are either side of breast, breast is 2m wide so speakers 2.3 m apart, speakers are way out of the alcove however i expect i am getting some serious reflection in the alcoves???? have a Expedit in one alcove - thinking about panels in each alcove

I have the house free at weekend so i may give Cliffs contraption )) a go

its free so worth a punt to see if I can get some favourable results

PS Cliff still liking the Apollo R/DAC combo ???

Yes, it realy is doing the business for me Steve, as posted earlier, that Beach Boys CD is stunning and as I have said on previous threads, I'm begining to appreciate good and bad recording in all mediums.

If you try it Steve, listen for the double and triple harmonics (and the lack of them, I think there is a technical description?) when you pin up the damping. The trouble is, once you know they are there and should not be . . . *dash1* its down hill from there on*pardon*

Its Horlicks time, I'm going to have another dip into the Beach boys while I enjoy my drink.

CJSF

 

[sheggs]

ok here goes,

on the whole I am happy with my room acoustics - however on some recordings both vinyl/digital I do get a bit of bass bloom

room is 4m x 5m - i have a chimney breast speakers are either side of breast, breast is 2m wide so speakers 2.3 m apart, speakers are way out of the alcove however i expect i am getting some serious reflection in the alcoves???? have a Expedit in one alcove - thinking about panels in each alcove

I have the house free at weekend so i may give Cliffs contraption )) a go

its free so worth a punt to see if I can get some favourable results

PS Cliff still liking the Apollo R/DAC combo ???

Do you have any other type of acoustic treatment within your room? The bass boominess is unlikely to be caused by the alcove behind your speaker. This is because -

a) The speakers aren't in the alcove

b) If they had been in the alcove you would have had trouble with reflections rather than bass boominess

I would suggest that boominess is caused by the room modes (the room is very square like) and this needs to be dealt with in the two main places that bass collects -

a) Boundaries, any place where a wall meets the floor or ceiling i.e. corners

b) Back Wall - It creates standing waves that effect the way you hear your bass

 

[Crocodile]

Just having a quick plough, currently in the Monitor Positioning article.

I’m a bit closer to my speakers than they are to me...

That would be a good trick if you could pull it off. I think you mean "I’m a bit closer to my speakers than they are to each other".

 

[sheggs]

Its a test to see if you are still paying attention. All I can say is well done and carry on haha

You not seen those new Optical Illuision speakers they're great!!

Thanks I will get this changed, not noticed this before