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I have set things in motion to have a projector and screen at home in the lounge and I am not sure how picture quality compares to my tv(42" toshiba,full hd ,lcd with sky hd and a panasonic blu-ray)

I have on my list an Onkyo 609 with Q accoustic center and rears and will use my 2 channel system as the fronts(Primare and Leema) so sound wise I feel that it will be ok.(also have the Quad L sub)

I have about £1500 to spend on the projector and enough to take care of screen,cables etc as a separate issue.

It's a biggish lounge(10m x 4.8m) with a beam 4.5 meters from the wall where the screen will go that the projector can be permanantly sited on.

Will it be a very good picture?

thanks

I can have my curtains lined to make the room almost completly dark
 
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somebody give me a bit of feedback please

a school projector beamed onto a wall versus a real cinema is my only experience of this
 

Frank Harvey

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mohawk said:
I can have my curtains lined to make the room almost completly dark

Other than drawing the curtains, is your decor mostly light or generally dark?

4.5m from the wall with be fine - in our 5m x 5m demo room, our PJ's are against the back wall, making them about the same throw distance.
 
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thanks David

could you please answer the 1st part of my question,as I said I have very little idea of what the PQ will be like.

our room is quite light decor wise

I live at the very far end of Cornwall so there is almost no choice with buying this kit

cheers
 
I would strongly recommend a demo before purchase. A projector will work very well in your room. HD pictures will look amazing, far better than your TV. But SD pictures will be stretched more than your 42-inch TV, resulting in deterioration in quality. Only a demo can tell if the SD picture quality is acceptable to you or not.
 

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mohawk said:
I have set things in motion to have a projector and screen at home in the lounge and I am not sure how picture quality compares to my tv(42" toshiba,full hd ,lcd with sky hd and a panasonic blu-ray)

I have about £1500 to spend on the projector and enough to take care of screen,cables etc as a separate issue.

It's a biggish lounge(10m x 4.8m) with a beam 4.5 meters from the wall where the screen will go that the projector can be permanantly sited on.

Will it be a very good picture?
4.5m throw distance will be fine, and all PJ's will have a zoom facility in case you need the pic larger or smaller if you're not able to place the PJ anywhere you like.

As far as picture quality is concerned, a good quality PJ walks all over a TV screen for movies, as far as I'm concerned. I don't see the point in having a sound system that fills a large room, with the visuals coming from a small screen at the front! Having a 6/7 foot screen (or more, if you like) is the icing on the cake, and once experienced, you'll not go back to a TV for movie viewing. Some are sharper than others, and obviously, the larger you make the picture, the softer it will look, but however big you have it, it'll still look better than most cinemas.

Have a look at the Epson TW6000, which is around £1350. This is an LCD projector (3D compatible, if it's needed), which should be ideal for you.

I can have my curtains lined to make the room almost completly dark

Our room is quite light decor wise
Blocking out as much light will help greatly, but if you have white walls and a lot of light coloured furnishings, these will reflect light created by the PJ back into the room, which will make it's way back to the screen. This will affect the contrast ratio and lose detail in darker areas - exactly how much is hard to say without seeing the PJ in the room. My room is completely light sealed, but there is some white furniture that reflects, and obviously there's the ceiling too. Notideal, but still looks great, way better than any TV.

I live at the very far end of Cornwall so there is almost no choice with buying this kit
I used to live in Saltash (worked in Plymouth) and it was bad enough on the edge of Cornwall 15+ years ago! I don't think you have anything South of Exeter do you!
 

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FrankHarveyHiFi said:
I live at the very far end of Cornwall so there is almost no choice with buying this kit
I used to live in Saltash (worked in Plymouth) and it was bad enough on the edge of Cornwall 15+ years ago! I don't think you have anything South of Exeter do you!

Quite surprised there's so little in Plymouth, just a Richer Sounds by the looks of it.
 
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thanks all and especially David for e-mail earlier.

all systems go then,I will get the epsom 6ooo and other kit as I mentioned.

as for the end of Cornwall,few good shops,London 3 times a year for concerts and exhibitions at huge expense.Wouldn't live anywhere else.

cheers
 
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unrelated:

i have a 52" toshiba
52XV555D

its all hooked up via hdmi, and to a sony bdp s370, but for the life of me there is absolutly no differance in pic quality from standard, dvd and blu-ray just wondered if you had any issues with your smaller t.v toshiba tech support where no use and im getting very anoyed with it
 

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clueless bob said:
unrelated:

Start a new thread then. EDIT: Oh you have, now, well done...

i have a 52" toshiba 52XV555D its all hooked up via hdmi, and to a sony bdp s370, but for the life of me there is absolutly no differance in pic quality from standard, dvd and blu-ray just wondered if you had any issues with your smaller t.v toshiba tech support where no use and im getting very anoyed with it

I don't quite follow you, no difference in quality from what to what?
 

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Seriously a HD image in a 10m room will look fantastic. If somebody tells me how to paste pics i'll paste a picture from my Panasonic PT-AE 100e (Native 720p) but will scale 1080p. You'll be shocked how good it is from my little Sony BDP-S370 £100 player. As for SD, these PJ's tend to have great scalers, even my PJ is fantastic. In fairness if you are using Sky HD/ Blu-Ray you wouldn't need to worry about the PJ scaling as kit can do it but they are great. Not sure if its still the case but i am sure that WHF's very own Clare Newsome uses a PJ instead of a TV.

They are not like 'School Projectors'. Saving for an Optoma HD33 at present.
 

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I wouldn't worry about the picture quality, it will be very good. I bought the Epson EH-TW3500, (about £1400), a couple of years ago and the picture is really impressive; the more modern Epsons should be even better.

My previous room had lots of white, and not all light could be blocked out, but pictures were still great.

With non-HD material I've also not really had much issue. When I had a screen approximately 8 and a half feet at about 3 metres lower quality channels upscaled via my Sagem digibox could look a bit rubbish, but were passable. Everything else looked good. Now in a different house I have a 6 foot screen at about the same distance, and this has improved the lower quality SD footage.

Do try the different scalers you have available though. The Sagem box was rated as a scaler and is good, but I recently tried letting the projector scale instead and it does seem to do a bit better job. I'm even tempted to see if it upscales DVDs and AVIs better than my Samsung BluRay player, (doubt it, but you never know ...).

The screen size is really worth thinking about, and also factor in where you like to sit in a cinema. There's a trade off between a bigger wow factor and being able to easily take in all of the picture while getting all the detail. In retrospect 8.5 feet at 3m was too big and I'm happier with 6. Also, on a smaller screen the image will be brighter.

I just guessed a screen size the first time. However, there's loads of different recommendations out there, but it's hard to know exactly what to follow. I combined a few different ones I found based on width, height, and diagonal to come up with my new screen size, and am pleased. Happy to share what calculations I used if it's useful.
 
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thanks for input ,it's appreciated and good to know that the picture will be very good.

the Epsom pj I had planned on getting will not suit size of screen available with the pj mounted as required so I am putting things on hold for 2-3 months and the new plan is

Onkyo 609

new Onkyo bd player (£500)

Panasonic PT-......5000e ,meant to be VERY good

screen and cables

about 4K in total

my wife and I watch a couple of films a week and the bd player I would like will allow us to have Netflicks going to the pj and the tv as it has 2 hdmi outputs.

even as I type this I am aware that I probably will not wait a couple of months and will just sort it all out in the next few weeks,just need to do a bit more grafting.
 
Personally, I would spend more on the AV receiver than the BD player, & go for an Onkyo 809 with Panasonic 210 blu ray player, for example. An AV receiver is the heart of any system, & it makes sense to invest more in it. Absolutely no point in spending more on a blu ray player than an AV receiver.
 
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very pleased to say that I have just ordered a Panasonic pt-ae 5000 projector,comes with 2 pairs of specs and a 3d copy of Avatar.

any ideas on the minimum spend on a screen to make the most of this pj,it will be 2000mm wide.

I have been told by a dealer that I need to spend £1500 on a screen ,seems a bit steep to me and will delay install by another month.
 

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