Price of the new LG Oled TVs £6500 the flagship

[ellisdj]

I bet there won't be much in it at all. In side by side would be hard to tell them apart.

Let alone not.

I bet the panny will be more accurate maybe lg brighter at expense of things elsewhere.

4k is just resolution be same on them both.

Hdr going to take at least a yr to be really kicking in if it that is even long enough.

Chop the panny within the next year you will never see its full potential

 

[Son_of_SJ]

It may still be the case that the Panasonic OLED (calibrated) will be superior to the G6 LG.

Yep, good point. We're building up the LG G6 OLED series as being the best thing ever, but we'll have to wait for some reviews.

 

[ellisdj]

If the panny is studio mastering quality how can it get much better?

 

[Son_of_SJ]

Also the Panasonic is completely different to the LG and is taking a little while to get used to. The Panasonic has no issues too and the new LG already has issues apparently according to other AV forums.

Do you mean that your 4K Panasonic is different from your previous 1080p LG? In what way different, apart from the resolution increase? I'm surprised that the Panasonic is taking some getting used to, because I've been able to adjust pretty quickly to the Sony in the parlour (though the Sony is my first LCD television), and to adjust instantly to now having the Panasonic 65VT65 in the kitchen .....

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Also the Panasonic is completely different to the LG and is taking a little while to get used to. The Panasonic has no issues too and the new LG already has issues apparently according to other AV forums.

Do you mean that your 4K Panasonic is different from your previous 1080p LG? In what way different, apart from the resolution increase? I'm surprised that the Panasonic is taking some getting used to, because I've been able to adjust pretty quickly to the Sony in the parlour (though the Sony is my first LCD television), and to adjust instantly to now having the Panasonic 65VT65 in the kitchen .....

Its different both to the LG current ones and my old one. It's not as bright but it is calibrated and the LG's I have been looking at seem to go blacker too! It might just be I need it calibrated again for my environment - not sure.

 

[Son_of_SJ]

Its different both to the LG current ones and my old one. It's not as bright but it is calibrated and the LG's I have been looking at seem to go blacker too! It might just be I need it calibrated again for my environment - not sure.

I don't understand how the current LG OLEDs can be any blacker than your Panasonic 4K OLED, or indeed blacker than your old LG 55EA980W OLED. For instance, if you read the Home Cinema Choice review of your Panasonic, here http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/panasonic-tx-65cz952b-review/23237 it says, in the section "Embrace the Dark Side", "Black. Black, black, black. Blackety-black. There's no getting past it – the performance of OLED where black levels are concerned has become the technology's major talking point. So it make sense to start here. With the 65CZ952B dark scenes showcase black colours that look black. Not some shade of grey, blue or green. Not as if they’ve been injected with radioactive material, but just black. Or Absolute Black as Panasonic calls it".

So I don't understand how any other machine can be darker than your Panasonic's absolute black. And in any case, black level is very important, but it's not the only measure of picture performance - otherwise I wouldn't like my LG plasma, which is now in the front bedroom, so much, despite its fairly weak blacks. When I do get a 4K television, I personally won't be chasing OLED-level blacks, if it's as good as the blacks of my Pioneer and Panasonic plasmas, that would be good enough.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I just had another demo of Kick Ass at the end scene where it all goes dark and it was perfect! But when I tried it at night the other day it didn't look right. I will have to try it again tonight. In the day though it's the best I have seen on a TV.

 

[ellisdj]

What way didnt it look right?

You dont want crushed blacks or crushed whites if possible - thats how your LG looked to me dude from the photos you posted - I didnt think any of them looked good

So far pretty much all of the Panny Photos have been good - your camera skills remain constant

So if there is visible grey - thats likely the just above black the LG was crushing.

It might be a good idea to get the calibration details - there is no calibrating to a room - only to a spec.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

What way didnt it look right?

You dont want crushed blacks or crushed whites if possible - thats how your LG looked to me dude from the photos you posted - I didnt think any of them looked good

So far pretty much all of the Panny Photos have been good - your camera skills remain constant

So if there is visible grey - thats likely the just above black the LG was crushing.

It might be a good idea to get the calibration details - there is no calibrating to a room - only to a spec.

Yep, it had grey and didn't look right. I am in contact with Gordan at the moment.

 

[ellisdj]

Having grey is probably right for that scene - no grey is crushed blacks in my eyes, grey is a shade of black and white

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Having grey is probably right for that scene - no grey is crushed blacks in my eyes, grey is a shade of black and white

Ah cheers, I will check it again tonight and report back.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Having grey is probably right for that scene - no grey is crushed blacks in my eyes, grey is a shade of black and white

Ah cheers, I will check it again tonight and report back.

Just shut the curtains and tried again and grey again.

Just spoke to Nick again and he reckons this TV looks stunning in 4K.

 

[Son_of_SJ]

Just shut the curtains and tried again and grey again.

Just spoke to Nick again and he reckons this TV looks stunning in 4K.

I'm not sure why you should need anyone else's opinion, rather than trusting your own eyes?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Just shut the curtains and tried again and grey again.

Just spoke to Nick again and he reckons this TV looks stunning in 4K.

I'm not sure why you should need anyone else's opinion, rather than trusting your own eyes?

I haven't seen it yet.

 

[Series1boy]

It took me around 2 months to get used to both Isf modes on my VT. I kept switching between night and day and now only use night Isf mode, even in the day time. It does take time Gel after calibration because the picture isn't as bright as the other modes, which aren't right.. Although, a Tv should be calibrated for your environment, so it may need a bit of tweaking to suit your bedroom.

 

[ellisdj]

When you calibrate a display the meter is pressed against the screen so the ambient room light doesnt effect the readings.

So its basically a case of setting the correct peak brightness for the conditions - a serious viewer is going to do so in the dark. A calibrator might go silly bright in a greenhouse but dark is always dark.

Chances are the filter in that TV will negate most of the ambient light of the room anyway.

So its likely set to a certain brightness - then the rest is to a spec.

The big question is - has he calibrated HDR - thats new tech and will need to be calibrated, over time I am sure this will be perfected. Also what colour gamay has been calibrated 709 or 2020.

Thats about it - the rest I am sure will be marvelous

 

[Deleted member 2457]

When you calibrate a display the meter is pressed against the screen so the ambient room light doesnt effect the readings.

So its basically a case of setting the correct peak brightness for the conditions - a serious viewer is going to do so in the dark. A calibrator might go silly bright in a greenhouse but dark is always dark.

Chances are the filter in that TV will negate most of the ambient light of the room anyway.

So its likely set to a certain brightness - then the rest is to a spec.

The big question is - has he calibrated HDR - thats new tech and will need to be calibrated, over time I am sure this will be perfected. Also what colour gamay has been calibrated 709 or 2020.

Thats about it - the rest I am sure will be marvelous

Yep, cheers. I am now watching 4K content via YouTube it's amazing! The best I have seen by a mile.

 

[ellisdj]

What source are you streaming via?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

What source are you streaming via?

The TV and using YouTube on the Apps.

 

[ellisdj]

Oh yeah, thats perfect. Forgot about smart apps, I have been paying for 4k Netflix for months but had no source.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Oh yeah, thats perfect. Forgot about smart apps, I have been paying for 4k Netflix for months but had no source.

Yeah, it looks great!

 

[Benedict_Arnold]

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[Benedict_Arnold]

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[Son_of_SJ]

Just shut the curtains and tried again and grey again.

Just spoke to Nick again and he reckons this TV looks stunning in 4K.

I'm not sure why you should need anyone else's opinion, rather than trusting your own eyes?

I haven't seen it yet.

Sometimes you don't make things very clear, Gel. I knew that when you shut the curtains, you were referring to your own Panasonic OLED. But you didn't make it clear that when you spoke to Nick, "this TV looks stunning in 4K" was referring to the forthcoming LG G6 OLED. Without making things clear, you'll never make a living as a scientist! *blum3*

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Just shut the curtains and tried again and grey again.

Just spoke to Nick again and he reckons this TV looks stunning in 4K.

I'm not sure why you should need anyone else's opinion, rather than trusting your own eyes?

I haven't seen it yet.

Sometimes you don't make things very clear, Gel. I knew that when you shut the curtains, you were referring to your own Panasonic OLED. But you didn't make it clear that when you spoke to Nick, "this TV looks stunning in 4K" was referring to the forthcoming LG G6 OLED. Without making things clear, you'll never make a living as a scientist! *blum3*

Huh? I was referring to the Panasonic Oled. Nick had used it for 4K but I hadnt seen it in 4K then. Now I have and it does look stunning. I am definitely glad I bought it and 2D is pretty perfect too.