please help me on 4k

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planning to purchase a new 4k tv with hdmi 2.0 as well as a new 4k bluray player,should i connect the sky+ or the player player to the 2.0 for picture quality?
 
Ok. Remember that you will notice improved picture quality only with native 4K content (only 2 programmes on Netflix are natively 4K). Otherwise, with 1080p content, picture quality will be comparable and slightly worse than a 1080p TV displaying 1080p pictures.
 
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In other words, buying a 4K tv at the moment is pretty much pointless.
 
It really depends on what you want out of your TV. If you're someone who buys a TV once in 7-8 years, then 4K may be for you. Otherwise, it's best to save money until there's enough 4K content, and a guarantee that your current 4K TV would definitely work. Read about HDCP 2.2:

http://m.techradar.com/news/television/hdtv/everything-you-know-about-4k-ultra-hd-is-probably-wrong-thanks-to-hdcp-2-2-1256763
 
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I've decided to skip 4K and wait for 8K. *smile*
 
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bigboss said:
You won't be able to avoid 4K. In fact, all of us will eventually go to 4K. 8K will make sense only if you go for a projector or a very large TV (85 inches +).
That's me in then. *smile*. I hear 4K isn't as big jump as standard definition to high definition. I keep demoing it though.
 
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bigboss said:
The point about 4K is that you can get much closer to the screen for that immersive experience as compared to 1080p. In other words, you need a larger TV for the same viewing distance to make it worthwhile.
High quality 1080p like the best plasmas and OLED TVs are good for close up too.
 
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bigboss said:
A 4K OLED will be superior to a 1080p OLED with the right content and viewing distance.
True, but an OLED TV is far superior to a 4K one. So are the best plasmas.
 
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bigboss said:
You really should demo a proper 4K clip on a 4K TV to appreciate what's possible.
I've just done the 4K clips in shops, true.
 
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bigboss said:
gel said:
bigboss said:
A 4K OLED will be superior to a 1080p OLED with the right content and viewing distance.
True, but an OLED TV is far superior to a 4K one. So are the best plasmas.

But you haven't seen a 4K OLED in action yet! ;)
I've read a review:

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/gadgets-on-the-go/hands-on-review-lg-curved-ultra-hd-oled-television-20141012-114w9e.html

*smile*
 
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If i can wade in here. I have a samsung 55 inch 4k tv. First TV i bought in 10 years. I understand that maybe just maybe the picture quality on some plasmas and OLED's is a little darker (well its fact) but from what i have seen the detail on the the samsung as fare as is better (at the moment). And i would take a better detail over absoloute black anyday to be honest (as long as blacks are not grey). Being a graphic designer to much black can be a bad thing even on screen it can obscure details and highlights it needs to eaqual messure its about balance. Dont get to hung on absulute black

I would say that even without 4k content the samsung delivers fantastic pictures off blu rays and judging by the 4k stuff i have seen on netflix and what not. I can say you can tell the differrence on a 55inch fact.

In regrads to Colour space's it will be backwards compatble ( and doubt you will be able to see the difference. These 2 spaces are so close in spectrume it would be largly academic at best) and the media blow most things out of proportion especalilly tech radar i find. There all over the place trying to be nutrual i wish they just report somthing when there is somthing to report.

But in regards to the orinagle question. If your tv is about to kick the bucket get a samsung with a one connect box so your sort of future proof if not hold out till all the content is avliable so that you can better decide.

But to say its useless is the wrong point of view to take. I would say it pointless to buy somthing that dosnt even support the new format everything is backwards compatible blurays still works (better in fact). Sky works like it always has, badly! (the TV just highlights the fact we pay for HD when you really don't) DVD still works and will give those discs a new lease of life (espceacailly pixar DVD)'s and if you really must and VHS still work!

So why is it worthless?

but i defferently say do not buy a new AV reciever/bluyray palyer just yet there more out wack than the tv's. As big boss said upscaleing is a usless feature as all 4k tv's will do it fare better.

Just my opinon Take a few DVD's, Blurays and see one for yourself

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Check my views on the TV shootout I attended recently.

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/tvs-and-projectors/ultimate-shoot-out?page=3

Even I thought Samsung 4K was the best.

As I said, it depends on each individual. If I think I'll change my TV every 3 years, I'll buy a Samsung H7000 today which will perform equally well as the 4K ones but a lot cheaper. When there's enough 4K content in 2-3 years, I'll buy a 4K TV then with the added bonus of cheaper and better TVs.

But if I want a TV for 5-7 years, then an upgradeable 4K TV makes sense.
 
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If i can wade in here. I have a samsung 55 inch 4k tv. First TV i bought in 10 years. I understand that maybe just maybe the picture quality on some plasmas and OLED's is a little darker (well its fact) but from what i have seen the detail on the the samsung as fare as is better (at the moment). And i would take a better detail over absoloute black anyday to be honest (as long as blacks are not grey). Being a graphic designer to much black can be a bad thing even on screen it can obscure details and highlights it needs to eaqual messure its about balance. Dont get to hung on absulute black

I would say that even without 4k content the samsung delivers fantastic pictures off blu rays and judging by the 4k stuff i have seen on netflix and what not. I can say you can tell the differrence on a 55inch fact.

In regrads to Colour space's it will be backwards compatble ( and doubt you will be able to see the difference. These 2 spaces are so close in spectrume it would be largly academic at best) and the media blow most things out of proportion especalilly tech radar i find. There all over the place trying to be nutrual i wish they just report somthing when there is somthing to report.

But in regards to the orinagle question. If your tv is about to kick the bucket get a samsung with a one connect box so your sort of future proof if not hold out till all the content is avliable so that you can better decide.

But to say its useless is the wrong point of view to take. I would say it pointless to buy somthing that dosnt even support the new format everything is backwards compatible blurays still works (better in fact). Sky works like it always has, badly! (the TV just highlights the fact we pay for HD when you really don't) DVD still works and will give those discs a new lease of life (espceacailly pixar DVD)'s and if you really must and VHS still work!

So why is it worthless?

but i defferently say do not buy a new AV reciever/bluyray palyer just yet there more out wack than the tv's. As big boss said upscaleing is a usless feature as all 4k tv's will do it fare better.

Just my opinon Take a few DVD's, Blurays and see one for yourself

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Good points, I see what you are saying, it's just from buying around 15 TVs in the last 5 years, black levels are so important but like you say the Samsung is pretty good and reviewed well on all the websites. When I was in Currys the 4K ones were on memory sticks and the picture was very good but then over the other side of the store was the LG OLED one and it was definitely the best one in the shop. The brightness with the dark is where it's at, it is so much more stronger.
 
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You have to remeber when you walking into stores (even though you say it was off memory keys) they are on an HDMI loop/splitters where possible and i can guarentee the file on the samsung is still lower quaility than that found on current Blurays. You need to feed them same content from same blu ray player. I bet it wouldn't be far behind

The samsung take some fiddeling with to get a good response also. I would argue that some LCD's especailly the 4ks are better than some plasmas (some). LG im sure they have good tech but i would wait on the OLED till they bring out 4k one from what i have read is very soon ans also for others to bring them out samsung im sure have somthing.

Its like i say if your humming and hurring dont by it as you wont be happy

Remeber absualute black not the do all and end all...... Sorry! biggboss i meant no offence! I do remeber reading your shoot out its what made me by tv albiet the curved one (im a tart) i can live some clouding and you can't see it in a lit(ish) room any how. Standard family view.
 

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bigboss said:
Ok. Remember that you will notice improved picture quality only with native 4K content (only 2 programmes on Netflix are natively 4K). Otherwise, with 1080p content, picture quality will be comparable and slightly worse than a 1080p TV displaying 1080p pictures.

But dealers, and several reviews, do say that 1080p material on a 4K television CAN (not always) look better than the same 1080p material on a 1080p television ....
 

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