Panasonic will introduce LED

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I was critical whether Panasonic will introduce the LED tv in Europe, but luckily i found out
that Panasonic is already a big player in the Asian LED tv market. They have introduced a line of LED tv's,
which promises a contrast of 1.000.000:1. They also have been very succesful with the introduction of LED bulbs
named 'everleds' in Japan, the home of Panasonic. The LED Tv's will come to Europe in May 2010, so if you're looking
for probably the best LED Tv in 2010, you will have to wait untill May.

 

[Andrew Everard]

Think you may be several miles wide of the mark with Panasonic being 'a major player in the Asian LED tv market'.

As far as I know there aren't any Panasonic LED-lit LCD TVs yet: certainly none I can see on the company's Japanese website, and none I recall seeing in a huge electrical store here the other day.

Who knows what the CES event in the States will bring next week, but for now I think you are speculating rather than informing, and describing this putative product as the best LED TV 2010 will bring is a flight of pure fantasy.

Oh, and those Everled lightbulbs? They are, of course, domestic lightbulbs, and thus nothing much to do with LED-lit LCD TVs, and in my experience they give a rather mean, poky light...

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Arvie88:

I was critical whether Panasonic will introduce the LED tv in Europe, but luckily i found out
that Panasonic is already a big player in the Asian LED tv market. They have introduced a line of LED tv's,
which promises a contrast of 1.000.000:1. They also have been very succesful with the introduction of LED bulbs
named 'everleds' in Japan, the home of Panasonic. The LED Tv's will come to Europe in May 2010, so if you're looking
for probably the best LED Tv in 2010, you will have to wait untill May.

I glad you put probaly the best LED TV, somehow I don't think Panasonic LED tv's will be the best around.

 

[Anonymous]

Arvie88:

They have introduced a line of LED tv's, which promises a contrast of 1.000.000:1.

My current tv has the best black levels ever, with a contrast ratio of 2.000.000:1 which produces infinite blackness. The blacks are not just deep but infinite. You canït beat that.

I know itïs true because my tv says so.

 

[bigboss]

Contrast ratios is one of the most misleading specification in a TV. It just doesn't mean anything. The contrast ratio of JVC DLA-HD950 is "only" 50,000:1, but it would easily trounce any TV in the market with its blacks, the Pioneer Kuro included (which has the deepest blacks amongst any of the current TVs). It's one of the best projectors around.

Don't go by what the advertisements say. A 10000000000:1 contrast ratio TV is not necessarily better than a 1000000:1 contrast ratio TV.

 

[Clare Newsome]

Well said, sir

 

[RodhasGibson]

Clare Newsome:Well said, sir

Clare as Andrew mentioned above C E S Is next week. Are any of you guys attending and if so what new goodies will be on display. What do you you think will be groundbreaking in 2010.Happy New Year to all you guys at WHFI S&V.

 

[Anonymous]

I was joking. I thought that was apparent from the tone of my post, but clearly not. I was sort of mocking the fact that my tv claims to produce infinite blacks. (I donït pay too much attention to the numbers - my tv also has 600hz IFC whatever that is

)

Anyway, Happy New Year all.

 

[bigboss]

hmtb:

my tv also has 600hz IFC whatever that is

)

Anyway, Happy New Year all.

That's a specification I can't get my head around!

At first we only had to choose between a 50Hz & a 100Hz..............then the 200Hz came..............& then some manufacturer decided to confuse the world by coming up with these weird specs of 400Hz & 600Hz which apparently are not the same as the 100Hz & 200Hz we're used to!!

Happy New Year WHF Team & all forum members!!

 

[Andrew Everard]

RodhasGibson:Clare as Andrew mentioned above C E S Is next week. Are any of you guys attending and if so what new goodies will be on display. What do you you think will be groundbreaking in 2010.Happy New Year to all you guys at WHFI S&V.

The WHFSV team is going to be there pretty mob-handed, with - at last count - Clare, Andy C, Dom, Managing Editor Jonathan Evans, Tests Ed and Thaiman heart-throb Simon Lucas, and former editor Richard Melville attending as far as I know.

As to what we'll be seeing, I know Dom had a briefing from Samsung in Korea the other week, and in general I think there's be lots of 3D TVs and eco-wise products, but specific details a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

 

[RodhasGibson]

Andrew Everard:

RodhasGibson:Clare as Andrew mentioned above C E S Is next week. Are any of you guys attending and if so what new goodies will be on display. What do you you think will be groundbreaking in 2010.Happy New Year to all you guys at WHFI S&V.

The WHFSV team is going to be there pretty mob-handed, with - at last count - Clare, Andy C, Dom, Managing Editor Jonathan Evans, Tests Ed and Thaiman heart-throb Simon Lucas, and former editor Richard Melville attending as far as I know.

As to what we'll be seeing, I know Dom had a briefing from Samsung in Korea the other week, and in general I think there's be lots of 3D TVs and eco-wise products, but specific details a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

Thanks Andrew,I trust you are enjoying the stay in Japan.When are you due back? wouldn"t hurry if I were you as it"s Damn Cold her at present although sunny at least.

 

[Andrew Everard]

Sitting in an airport hotel near Nagoya right now, admiring the amazing 1080i broadcast picture quality on the little Sharp Aquos 20in hotel TV, and due to fly back tomorrow.

 

[Cofnchtr]

Andrew Everard:
RodhasGibson:Clare as Andrew mentioned above C E S Is next week. Are any of you guys attending and if so what new goodies will be on display. What do you you think will be groundbreaking in 2010.Happy New Year to all you guys at WHFI S&V.

The WHFSV team is going to be there pretty mob-handed, with - at last count - Clare, Andy C, Dom, Managing Editor Jonathan Evans, Tests Ed and Thaiman heart-throb Simon Lucas, and former editor Richard Melville attending as far as I know.

As to what we'll be seeing, I know Dom had a briefing from Samsung in Korea the other week, and in general I think there's be lots of 3D TVs and eco-wise products, but specific details a bit thin on the ground at the moment.

Hi,

Does leave JD in charge?!?

Have a nice flight AE.

Cheers and Happy New Year.

Cofnchtr.

 

[Anonymous]

This is the case where theory and practice will never meet - anytime soon.Let me explain.

Human eye can percieve a contrast ratio of 1,000,000 to 10,000,000. No current TV or Projector display technology can match this. Even LEDs backlite sets cannot hope to achieve those ratios any time soon. If it could the images will be as real as looking OUT OF A WINDOW.

On a flip side to this is Resolution. The human eye can resolve way beyond 1080p [6mb], the current limit for mass produced LCD TV. It's more like 60Mb we can resolve unaided. Prof' Digital cameras can produce a 32MB images.

You can see how TVs have a long way to go to match and live up to human vision.

So Resolution and Contrast are essence to an image.

There is also Color, we can see approx 16 million.Not sure how much color a TV can show.Probably a lot less

As a optician, retired, I never cease to marvel the human eye as an optical instrument. The greatest images seen are the out of the window experience and not a TV.

The interplay of Contrast,Resolution,Color - the confluences of which that give the wow factor in appreciating televison images.

Now when 3D TV appears that will add to the mix to the 'Reality of vision'. Seeing the world as intended.

 

[Anonymous]

ukisbankrupt:
This is the case where theory and practice will never meet - anytime soon.Let me explain.

Human eye can percieve a contrast ratio of 1,000,000 to 10,000,000. No current TV or Projector display technology can match this. Even LEDs backlite sets cannot hope to achieve those ratios any time soon. If it could the images will be as real as looking OUT OF A WINDOW.

On a flip side to this is Resolution. The human eye can resolve way beyond 1080p [6mb], the current limit for mass produced LCD TV. It's more like 60Mb we can resolve unaided. Prof' Digital cameras can produce a 32MB images.

You can see how TVs have a long way to go to match and live up to human vision.

So Resolution and Contrast are essence to an image.

There is also Color, we can see approx 16 million.Not sure how much color a TV can show.Probably a lot less

As a optician, retired, I never cease to marvel the human eye as an optical instrument. The greatest images seen are the out of the window experience and not a TV.

The interplay of Contrast,Resolution,Color - the confluences of which that give the wow factor in appreciating televison images.

Now when 3D TV appears that will add to the mix to the 'Reality of vision'. Seeing the world as intended.

hmmmmm

 

[Anonymous]

EDIT - Double Post

 

[Anonymous]

maxflinn:ukisbankrupt:

This is the case where theory and practice will never meet - anytime soon.Let me explain.

Human eye can percieve a contrast ratio of 1,000,000 to 10,000,000. No current TV or Projector display technology can match this. Even LEDs backlite sets cannot hope to achieve those ratios any time soon. If it could the images will be as real as looking OUT OF A WINDOW.

On a flip side to this is Resolution. The human eye can resolve way beyond 1080p [6mb], the current limit for mass produced LCD TV. It's more like 60Mb we can resolve unaided. Prof' Digital cameras can produce a 32MB images.

You can see how TVs have a long way to go to match and live up to human vision.

So Resolution and Contrast are essence to an image.

There is also Color, we can see approx 16 million.Not sure how much color a TV can show.Probably a lot less

As a optician, retired, I never cease to marvel the human eye as an optical instrument. The greatest images seen are the out of the window experience and not a TV.

The interplay of Contrast,Resolution,Color - the confluences of which that give the wow factor in appreciating televison images.

Now when 3D TV appears that will add to the mix to the 'Reality of vision'. Seeing the world as intended. hmmmmm

Quite. Is this the return of someone we know?

First clue: "Let me explain."

Second Clue: "OUT OF A WINDOW." (random use of capitals)

 

[Anonymous]

hmtb:maxflinn:ukisbankrupt:

This is the case where theory and practice will never meet - anytime soon.Let me explain.

Human eye can percieve a contrast ratio of 1,000,000 to 10,000,000. No current TV or Projector display technology can match this. Even LEDs backlite sets cannot hope to achieve those ratios any time soon. If it could the images will be as real as looking OUT OF A WINDOW.

On a flip side to this is Resolution. The human eye can resolve way beyond 1080p [6mb], the current limit for mass produced LCD TV. It's more like 60Mb we can resolve unaided. Prof' Digital cameras can produce a 32MB images.

You can see how TVs have a long way to go to match and live up to human vision.

So Resolution and Contrast are essence to an image.

There is also Color, we can see approx 16 million.Not sure how much color a TV can show.Probably a lot less

As a optician, retired, I never cease to marvel the human eye as an optical instrument. The greatest images seen are the out of the window experience and not a TV.

The interplay of Contrast,Resolution,Color - the confluences of which that give the wow factor in appreciating televison images.

Now when 3D TV appears that will add to the mix to the 'Reality of vision'. Seeing the world as intended. hmmmmm

Quite. Is this the return of someone we know?

First clue: "Let me explain."

Second Clue: "OUT OF A WINDOW." (random use of capitals)

lol , and he likes to say he.s a professional , ultraslim was an "accountant" this time its an "optician" i think hes elswhere too , as an MD . lol ...

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, quite a career. Business consultant/ analyst, student, retired optician, accountant and who knows what else. Maybe heïs an international spy in which case these may be just covers. It would also explain the tremendous insight he offered into the Japanese organized crime network.

 

[Anonymous]

ah yeah , id forgotten about his yakuza links , lol , hes certainly well travelled ..

 

[Anonymous]

maxflinn:ah yeah , id forgotten about his yakuza links , lol , hes certainly well travelled ..

ho ho ho it's actually Santa Claus....wearing a kabuki mask

 

[Andrew Everard]

ukisbankrupt:ho ho ho it's actually Santa Claus....wearing a kabuki mask

You're late.