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I took the back off my 1yrs old pioneer plasma to give it a bit of a clean with a small brush and a can of air, while cleaning the dust from what looked like a transformer (could be wrong as I know nothing about the parts inside) there was a very bright flash with a bang now the thing will not work apart from the sound, I really don't know what I have done as all I did was clean it and why did I get that flash and bang as the thing was unpluged while I was inside, how can I repair it.

 

[Anonymous]

It was probably a capacitor. You have voided your warranty by taking the back off, and will probably be expesive to repair. I advise you take it to a dealership.

 

[Anonymous]

I take It you ignored the sticker that said don't take the back off unless you are a qualified technician or you will invalid your warranty?

 

[PJPro]

Bright flash and a bang. Bet that made you jump!

 

[jase fox]

Oh dear i could cry for you, its not my plasma & im feeling emotional, ha. You should never tamper with em yourself espec when there still in warranty, but it sounds like its seriously knackered mate doesnt sound good at all!! i think if it was me????????? ermmmm??? id go for broke & take it back were u got it from & id just say it just blew up when i switched it on, id be to upset not to try that, your call mate

 

[Anonymous]

I have taken the part out and have found a second hand one that is nearly the same apart from it has a higher number on the side so I will try to fit this in and hope that fixes it.

 

[professorhat]

Just be careful! Don't need a seriously burnt (or dead

) vanman on our hands! If you're not sure, get someone in to do it. TVs can be dangerous objects.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

Im an electronic engineer, and I would deffinately recomend getting someone qualified to repair it. Yes it will cost you more,but you don't run the risk of killing yourself or causing further potential damage by fitting components that arn't up to the job. Even if the part you have found "looks" the same doesn't mean it will work, especially if it's not rated to run at the correct voltage.

Even if you did fit it and it works if it's not rated to operate at the correct voltage it can burn out causing even more damage. I have seen a capacitor that blew on a crt tv and well let's just say that it blew a big hole in the pcb( the board that all the components fit into) and the tv was beyond economical repair. Basically scrap. Also you don't know if it's caused further damage that you can't see with the naked eye.

TV's can be DEADLY if you don't know what your doing. Some of the capacitor's can potentially depending on the size store thousands of volts and if you short these out by accident the electric shock may very well kill you. Think of these as giant battery's , if you short them out it could well blow up in your face. Or even blow a big hole in your nice big tv.

Seriously don't even think about it, is it worth killing or injuring yourself or your nice tv for the sake of a few £'s

You could try a local electrical goods repairer and they should be able to quote you on a price to fix it properly. And the work they do will be fully covered.

EDIT: even if you have unpluged it the capacitors can stay fully charged for weeks. The bigger they are the longer they will stay charged.

 

[Anonymous]

definately worth a punt on the back to the shop just turned it on and it blew up route or home ins route tripped with a bru went all in the tv lark?
uv already blown it up surely thats a lesson in itself
i repairerd a speaker terminal on my amp the other day and dont mind getting my hands dirty but wouldnt try anything with the electronics as this is something i know nothing about.
if you do try it yourself see if u can find a guide on the web, i done this to realign the laser on bros old ps2 without it i wouldnt of hasd a clue
but it is expensive kit and im sure if it doesnt work again due to your botch your not gonna b like oh well nevermind so get sum1 who nows what theyre doing

 

[Anonymous]

Some off you will know I took the back off my Pioneer plasma to give it a clean inside and something went bang, it was a thing that stores power which I got replaced with the help from a mate who has a soldering gun well the tv worked fine for 2hrs then the picture went blank with a bright white line in the centre and there was a smell of burning now nothing works I have replaced the fuse with a higher rated one but still nothing what do you think I need to replace? I know nothing about tv's so please explain what the part looks like and what it does

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="vanman"]what do you think I need to replace?[/quote]

Not a clue, really. I assume the "thing that stores power" may have been a capacitor, and you may have replaced it with one of the wrong value, or caused some other problem while attempting the repair.

But the burning smell sounds pretty terminal for some component, and there's a chance you may have damaged some circuitry - if you're lucky - or the plasma panel itself, if you're unlucky.

[quote user="vanman"]I have replaced the fuse with a higher rated one but still nothing[/quote]

Such a bad idea - the fuse is there for a purpose, not least of which is to blow before the TV catches fire and burns your house down.

[quote user="vanman"]I know nothing about tv's so please explain what the part looks like and what it does[/quote]

As I said, not a clue without inspecting and testing the TV thoroughly.

I think at this moment an embarrassed call to Pioneer customer support in search of the details of your local service centre is your best bet.- 0870 600 1539, or you can download a list of service centres here. Look for the ones with 'PDP' in column 1.

But get a quote: chances are this ain't going to be cheap, and it won't be covered by the warranty, even if the TV is new enough to be under guarantee.

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="darkside82"]definately worth a punt on the back to the shop just turned it on and it blew up route or home ins route tripped with a bru went all in the tv lark?
[/quote]

Except a) that's dishonest and b) the back of the TV will have tamper-proof screws, so the service centre will be able to tell you had the back off the set.

 

[John Duncan]

Certainly OT and maybe TMI, but a few years ago my cat had Giardia - a parasite that causes rather spectacular tummy upsets - which made him, um, lose control of himself, um, spectacularly. Bath, bed, sofa, fruit bowl - and finally the television. This was in the days when a) renting a telly was an acceptable thing to do and b) tellies were fat enough for cats to sit on because they're nice and warm and c) there were big holes in the back of the telly for ventilation purposes. We phoned up the rental shop and said we wanted to swap it for a widescreen - I mean there was nothing but **** on the old one...........

Hey, maybe I'll use *this* story for your next competition!

 

[Anonymous]

Cat *** in a telly! Ewwww!!!

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="Duncan2112"]Cat *** in a telly! Ewwww!!![/quote]

Number two, notice, not number one. Anyway, we have since resolved any possibility of recurrence by getting a flat telly. Is quite funny watching them still trying to sit on it, mind.

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="vanman"]
I took the back off my 1yrs old pioneer plasma to give it a bit of a clean with a small brush and a can of air,
[/quote]

Am I the only person whose mind is boggled by this sentence. You could easily have been killed.

I know thats not at all helpful, but I just don't understand why anyone would every do that...

you must be winding us up... please say it is so!

 

[Anonymous]

vanman, I admire your integrity as a few dodgy people would put the back on and 'drop' it hoping the insurance don't fully investigate, which apparently they usually don't. Its good to know there are a few honest ones left !!

I incidentally have never made a claim on any insurance (except when some idiots torched my car)

 

[Anonymous]

OK my mate thinks its the transformer that has burt out, it smells and has melted rubber at the bottom of it so I am going to replace this with one from an old crt that does not work anymore (tube gone) it is quite a bit smaller but we think we can get it to fit can you just advise me, on the damaged transformer there are 4 wires on top 1 black 2 red and 1 yellow but on the crt transformer there are 3 wires 2 black and 1 red so am I ok to connect them together as long as they are the same colour.

 

[John Duncan]

OK - stop, please. You are going to die. This is not a sticky CD drawer mechanism we're talking about here, this is a high voltage television filled with poisonous gas, and you're wondering where the red wire goes. Get a TV repair man in, please!

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="JohnDuncan"]OK - stop, please. You are going to die. This is not a sticky CD drawer mechanism we're talking about here, this is a high voltage television filled with poisonous gas, and you're wondering where the red wire goes. Get a TV repair man in, please![/quote]

Both tv's will be unpluged while we work on them

 

[Anonymous]

I think this forum might be about to witness its first entry for the infamous Darwin Awards

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="vanman"]
[quote user="JohnDuncan"]OK - stop, please. You are going to die. This is not a sticky CD drawer mechanism we're talking about here, this is a high voltage television filled with poisonous gas, and you're wondering where the red wire goes. Get a TV repair man in, please![/quote]

Both tv's will be unpluged while we work on them

[/quote]Was it unplugged when the bang and the flash happened? Just wondering.

 

[Andrew Everard]

OK OK we have all warned you not to try any more DIY repairs. Please stop now before you damage the TV irreparably, burn your home down or electrocute both yourself and your willing helper.

I am very tempted to lock this thread on safety grounds, before any other mad ideas are floated.

Any feelings?

 

[Anonymous]

I mentioned claiming on insurance but I didn't mean LIFE INSURANCE !! Get real- you're an electrical engineer but they say there's nothing more dangerous than a little bit of knowledge !!

 

[Anonymous]

This thread certainly has comedy value - I'll be watching closely to see what blows up next and what it gets replaced with.

If any of those capacitor type thingies blow again I would just replace them by soldering in an AA battery and stick it down with a bit of gaffer tape if it looks loose.