new tv new headache

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i went and bought a pana TH42 85b plasma tv and very happy with it. got my pioneer AV out of its box a 1016V-s to set up the surround sound. linked up the speakers and linked up my playstation 3 and tosh hd player via hdmi links. ran a speaker set up test everything was fine. i can't get the tv to show anything from either the paystaion 3 or the tosh hd player. i checked all the cables from the two in and 1 out checked the back of the tv for the one in from the AV and still nothing. what am i doing wrong or am i assuming evrything should be right but missed something major.

thanks for any help

 

[Andy Clough]

Have you selected HDMI as the video output on the PS3 and Toshiba's menus?

 

[PJPro]

In a reader rescue this month, the team had a similar problem. The cause? A brand new cable from Chord was defective. This sort of thing just happens sometimes. Try to rule out faulty cables if you can.

 

[Anonymous]

hi Andy, yes i set the whole system up from scratch again, because when i link the tosh and ps3 direct to the tv it is fine. but when linked through the AV i get nothing at all.

 

[Anonymous]

i changed the cables yesterday as i thought that might have been the problem i have a total of 6 cables and paid another fortune for the three new ones. i do believe like most that using good cables is worth it. but six cant all be wrong.

 

[PJPro]

I would agree. Seems your problem lies elsewhere or you've been really unlucky.

 

[PJPro]

When you link the PS3 and Toshiba directly to the TV how are connecting them? HDMI?

 

[Anonymous]

Hi PJPro,

yep i only use hdmi as my link and they are both superb when direct through to the TV

 

[PJPro]

Sounds like a setup issue with the AV amp then....or something is faulty. I'm not familiar with it, so woun't be able to provide much help. Sorry.

 

[Anonymous]

thanks for your input any way

 

[matengawhat]

there is nothing faulty with your amp - the tosh hd and ps3 output in hdmi1.3a the AV is an older model and can't do anything with it - it can only handle hdmi 1.2 - i have same prob with a son 1200es and an Arcam solo Movie - its a joke - but they have written in the instructions that hdmi is new technology and still an evolvoing format!!!!! i don't think there is anyway to stop the machines output but whether you can get some old hdmi leads that are not 1.3a certified whether it will work! I am waiting for Arcam to come back to me to confirm whether it is a 1.3a case and whether its something they can fix with a firmware update although don't hold out much hope.

 

[PJPro]

That's a major pain in the butt. What happens when the "standard" changes again?

 

[matengawhat]

just been reading on the official hdmi website there are two different types of cable in terms of speed - a standard and high speed cable - standard can only handle upto 1080i the high speed can handle anything so i am wondering if i get a standard speed cable will that block anything above 1080i this will also block the new audio format but my old av amps can't take sound over hdmi anyway - anyone any ideas?

 

[Anonymous]

it really annoys me to the point that i feel like throwing everything in the bin. when i bought the AV i was told it would handle anything, at nearly £400.00 i thought it would be ok, so that was a lie, when i looked in the Mag it rated it as 4 stars and was an alturnative to what i wanted but i thought would be ok. granted i got a ps3 and a tosh hd to satisfy the then need to cover all the options. there must be soemthing that says if you produce a bit of kit that has HDMI then it should work on new tv's and not so old ps3 and hd players. i have 6 cables costing a small packet and none work. what a waste of money!!!!!

 

[matengawhat]

Now this is getting more interesting - I have just had my response from Arcam who say that HDMI should be backwards compatible and that the Solo should just bi pass any signal attached to it - strange thing is I had a Sony 1200es before that would not send a picture from a Tosh hd ep 35 either - they have asked to try different cables which I have so are now at a loss as to why it doesn't work - I am waiting for them to come back to me.

 

[matengawhat]

Arcam come back really quick - said think it is prob a problem with the unit as they have done a lot of testing with the new hd formats and no probs so have asked me to return it - might be worth taking your pioneer back!!!

 

[PJPro]

[quote user="matengawhat"]Arcam come back really quick - said think it is prob a problem with the unit as they have done a lot of testing with the new hd formats and no probs so have asked me to return it - might be worth taking your pioneer back!!![/quote]Shame you can't drive over to Cambridge with your bits to see if they can sort it.

 

[Anonymous]

i would gladly pay for someone to come and look at mine to see if they could sort it. i might just try that and see what pinoneer have to say should be interesting thanks Lads

 

[Anonymous]

Have you tried connecting the PS3 to the amp with optical and HDMI to your tv, works fine for me (just change BD/DVD settings on the PS3)

 

[professorhat]

The problem is not down to 1.2 vs 1.3 spec on HDMI - if you look at the differences between the two, the major differences (among other things) are the ability to support lip synch delays, deep colour and bitstreaming HD audio - clearly none of these would affect the video coming through.

So it may be a settings issue or a faulty amp, but it should definitely work.