Is the new apple tv able to use airfoil like an airport express? I would want to be streaming spotify. Now I have a shiny new hd tv was wondering if I could put both music and movies through through the one thing.
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I think you should deffinately test it out 🙂! I have a birthday comming up soon ish so may check it out!
bay24, I have just downloaded Airfoil for Mac and yes, it definitely works with the new Apple TV - I'm sitting here listening to Spotify streaming via my TV system as I type. And FYI, it works with both the old Apple TV box and the new one.
I think you should deffinately test it out 🙂! I have a birthday comming up soon ish so may check it out!
Andy Clough:bay24, I have just downloaded Airfoil for Mac and yes, it definitely works with the new Apple TV - I'm sitting here listening to Spotify streaming via my TV system as I type. And FYI, it works with both the old Apple TV box and the new one.
Thanks very much Andy!
Thanks very much Andy!
Andy Clough:bay24, I have just downloaded Airfoil for Mac and yes, it definitely works with the new Apple TV - I'm sitting here listening to Spotify streaming via my TV system as I type. And FYI, it works with both the old Apple TV box and the new one.
Andy how have you found the new apple tv now you have had it a while? Your blogg seemed a bit of an up and down review. I am presuming that with this you do not have to have your computer on if you have a nas drive for the content on your iTunes but it does need to be on to use airfoil/spotify?
Andy how have you found the new apple tv now you have had it a while? Your blogg seemed a bit of an up and down review. I am presuming that with this you do not have to have your computer on if you have a nas drive for the content on your iTunes but it does need to be on to use airfoil/spotify?
I'm sure Andy will be along to comment further, but in the meantime i'll point you to the mag's review of the new Apple TV, which appears in our December issue, out today
Hi bay24, yes your computer does need to be on if you're streaming Spotify via Airfoil. It works seamlessly and I've had no issues with it so far. BTW, to the best of my knowledge Apple TV doesn't support NAS devices.
Yes, I did have some issues with video streaming over my home wi-fi network, as mentioned in my blog, with picture judder and freezing. Obviously a hard-wired ethernet connection would be better from that point of view, but it simply isn't convenient in my house as the router is on the top floor.
The lack of TV shows to stream may also put some people off, along with the absence of a hard drive for storage, and it's worth noting it won't handle DivX video files, nor lossless FLAC files.
But by and large for £99 I'm very pleased with my Apple TV, and it's a convenient solution in an all-Mac household. But I'm well aware other, perhaps more flexible, options are available if you're not a Mac fanatic like me.
Yes, I did have some issues with video streaming over my home wi-fi network, as mentioned in my blog, with picture judder and freezing. Obviously a hard-wired ethernet connection would be better from that point of view, but it simply isn't convenient in my house as the router is on the top floor.
The lack of TV shows to stream may also put some people off, along with the absence of a hard drive for storage, and it's worth noting it won't handle DivX video files, nor lossless FLAC files.
But by and large for £99 I'm very pleased with my Apple TV, and it's a convenient solution in an all-Mac household. But I'm well aware other, perhaps more flexible, options are available if you're not a Mac fanatic like me.
Clare Newsome:I'm sure Andy will be along to comment further, but in the meantime i'll point you to the mag's review of the new Apple TV, which appears in our December issue, out today
Thanks for the heads up! Will be getting my copy!
Thanks for the heads up! Will be getting my copy!
Andy Clough:
Hi bay24, yes your computer does need to be on if you're streaming Spotify via Airfoil. It works seamlessly and I've had no issues with it so far. BTW, to the best of my knowledge Apple TV doesn't support NAS devices.
Yes, I did have some issues with video streaming over my home wi-fi network, as mentioned in my blog, with picture judder and freezing. Obviously a hard-wired ethernet connection would be better from that point of view, but it simply isn't convenient in my house as the router is on the top floor.
The lack of TV shows to stream may also put some people off, along with the absence of a hard drive for storage, and it's worth noting it won't handle DivX video files, nor lossless FLAC files.
But by and large for £99 I'm very pleased with my Apple TV, and it's a convenient solution in an all-Mac household. But I'm well aware other, perhaps more flexible, options are available if you're not a Mac fanatic like me.
Thanks very much for this response. It surprises me that a purely streaming devise would not be compatible with nas drives. So does it mean your computer needs to be on to access content from your iTunes library? May not be quite the bargain I thought it would be, having no tv series isnt great either as this is what I would probably use it most for. I would mainly be using it for music with the bonus being some extra hd content. Maybe back to the sonos route......
Hi bay24, yes your computer does need to be on if you're streaming Spotify via Airfoil. It works seamlessly and I've had no issues with it so far. BTW, to the best of my knowledge Apple TV doesn't support NAS devices.
Yes, I did have some issues with video streaming over my home wi-fi network, as mentioned in my blog, with picture judder and freezing. Obviously a hard-wired ethernet connection would be better from that point of view, but it simply isn't convenient in my house as the router is on the top floor.
The lack of TV shows to stream may also put some people off, along with the absence of a hard drive for storage, and it's worth noting it won't handle DivX video files, nor lossless FLAC files.
But by and large for £99 I'm very pleased with my Apple TV, and it's a convenient solution in an all-Mac household. But I'm well aware other, perhaps more flexible, options are available if you're not a Mac fanatic like me.
Thanks very much for this response. It surprises me that a purely streaming devise would not be compatible with nas drives. So does it mean your computer needs to be on to access content from your iTunes library? May not be quite the bargain I thought it would be, having no tv series isnt great either as this is what I would probably use it most for. I would mainly be using it for music with the bonus being some extra hd content. Maybe back to the sonos route......
bay24:Andy Clough:
Hi bay24, yes your computer does need to be on if you're streaming Spotify via Airfoil. It works seamlessly and I've had no issues with it so far. BTW, to the best of my knowledge Apple TV doesn't support NAS devices.
Yes, I did have some issues with video streaming over my home wi-fi network, as mentioned in my blog, with picture judder and freezing. Obviously a hard-wired ethernet connection would be better from that point of view, but it simply isn't convenient in my house as the router is on the top floor.
The lack of TV shows to stream may also put some people off, along with the absence of a hard drive for storage, and it's worth noting it won't handle DivX video files, nor lossless FLAC files.
But by and large for £99 I'm very pleased with my Apple TV, and it's a convenient solution in an all-Mac household. But I'm well aware other, perhaps more flexible, options are available if you're not a Mac fanatic like me.
So does it mean your computer needs to be on to access content from your iTunes library?
Yes it does. However, once Apple issues the iOS 4.2 update for iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch (hopefully tomorrow), you'll be able to stream any iTunes content on your Apple portable to the Apple TV using AirPlay. So in that instance, the computer would not need to be on.
Hi bay24, yes your computer does need to be on if you're streaming Spotify via Airfoil. It works seamlessly and I've had no issues with it so far. BTW, to the best of my knowledge Apple TV doesn't support NAS devices.
Yes, I did have some issues with video streaming over my home wi-fi network, as mentioned in my blog, with picture judder and freezing. Obviously a hard-wired ethernet connection would be better from that point of view, but it simply isn't convenient in my house as the router is on the top floor.
The lack of TV shows to stream may also put some people off, along with the absence of a hard drive for storage, and it's worth noting it won't handle DivX video files, nor lossless FLAC files.
But by and large for £99 I'm very pleased with my Apple TV, and it's a convenient solution in an all-Mac household. But I'm well aware other, perhaps more flexible, options are available if you're not a Mac fanatic like me.
So does it mean your computer needs to be on to access content from your iTunes library?
Yes it does. However, once Apple issues the iOS 4.2 update for iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch (hopefully tomorrow), you'll be able to stream any iTunes content on your Apple portable to the Apple TV using AirPlay. So in that instance, the computer would not need to be on.
Checked out the iPad and and iTouch4 Steaming to my Airport express and they work fine, but they do not see my older Apple TV, which is not such a big deal but would have been nice, hopefully Apple may release Code for the old TV once 4.2 is up and running.
As u mention the Apple tv doesnt support dlna.
So we have 1 £100 media player that doesnt support dlna, has poor format support, only outputs 720p with low bitrates and yet still manages to get 4/5 in a review.
Compared to other full-featured media players out there, for example a playonHD at £125 - this seems a little strange. I think3 out of 5 would be generous.
So we have 1 £100 media player that doesnt support dlna, has poor format support, only outputs 720p with low bitrates and yet still manages to get 4/5 in a review.
Compared to other full-featured media players out there, for example a playonHD at £125 - this seems a little strange. I think3 out of 5 would be generous.
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edsib1:
As u mention the Apple tv doesnt support dlna.
So we have 1 £100 media player that doesnt support dlna, has poor format support, only outputs 720p with low bitrates and yet still manages to get 4/5 in a review.
Compared to other full-featured media players out there, for example a playonHD at £125 - this seems a little strange. I think3 out of 5 would be generous.
Although it does have full format support for the gazillions of people who exclusively use iTunes. And you could argue that all those other media players don't support Airplay, which will next year supplant DLNA as the must-have technology in consumer electronics*...
*IMO, based on no facts whatsoever
As u mention the Apple tv doesnt support dlna.
So we have 1 £100 media player that doesnt support dlna, has poor format support, only outputs 720p with low bitrates and yet still manages to get 4/5 in a review.
Compared to other full-featured media players out there, for example a playonHD at £125 - this seems a little strange. I think3 out of 5 would be generous.
Although it does have full format support for the gazillions of people who exclusively use iTunes. And you could argue that all those other media players don't support Airplay, which will next year supplant DLNA as the must-have technology in consumer electronics*...
*IMO, based on no facts whatsoever
Dont hold ur breath for a proprietory system like airplay to take over from dlna. DLNA already has over 250m devices shipped, and has the support of the all the major players.. Indeed DLNA was founded after an early demo of airplay back in 2002, as the industry took steps to combat apple.
And are u saying my comments about poor video quality, and poor format support are not correct ?
And are u saying my comments about poor video quality, and poor format support are not correct ?
Yep, the Apple reviews in What Hi-Fi always amaze me. Given that there are so many other players without it's limitations out there like the Xtreamer, Popcorn, Mede8er etc. I'm always amazed that Apple media boxes get great reviews. £100 simply to stream some movies/music from Apple is insane. With other options you get full 1080p movie playback in almost every format out there as well as music, internet radio etc. I'll never understand why people would want to be locked into Apple's ecosystem where what you can play is dictated to you. I have a nice 8TB server with all my movies and music on it streaming to a Squeezebox and a Popcorn and it'll play whatever I throw at it. Even better they're all mines, not rented from Steve.
Okay this is going to show how non tech minded I am. Can someone explain to me in very simple language what DLNA is/does. my new TV has it and I was wondering what it does, as far as I can gather it means you can access music/video from your home network.... how would I do this?
Just bought one today and overall i'm impressed. Ok it basically does what my PS3 can do but it just works better. The UI is nice and smooth and it loads films from my iMac quickly.
I'm also loving the iphone remote to control it. Having recently converted to an iMac i have to say i am very happy with apple's products.
Was a little disappointed it didn't come with a HDMI cable though!!
I'm also loving the iphone remote to control it. Having recently converted to an iMac i have to say i am very happy with apple's products.
Was a little disappointed it didn't come with a HDMI cable though!!
bay24:Okay this is going to show how non tech minded I am. Can someone explain to me in very simple language what DLNA is/does. my new TV has it and I was wondering what it does, as far as I can gather it means you can access music/video from your home network.... how would I do this?
Loads of useful info on the DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) website, suggest you start there. Clickety
Loads of useful info on the DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) website, suggest you start there. Clickety
davy_c: I have a nice 8TB server with all my movies and music on it streaming to a Squeezebox and a Popcorn and it'll play whatever I throw at it. Even better they're all mines, not rented from Steve.
And how much did you pay for the squeezebox and popcorn?
Anyway, I agree that there are many other alternatives. However I don't live in the UK nor the US (in Europe), so while all the other boxes "do everything", they don't seem to have the content to match itunes (bear in mind, spotify and such is not available where I am). I am perfectly happy to pay a small amount to rent out from itunes.
For 1080p stuff, I still like my Blu-Ray player...
And how much did you pay for the squeezebox and popcorn?
Anyway, I agree that there are many other alternatives. However I don't live in the UK nor the US (in Europe), so while all the other boxes "do everything", they don't seem to have the content to match itunes (bear in mind, spotify and such is not available where I am). I am perfectly happy to pay a small amount to rent out from itunes.
For 1080p stuff, I still like my Blu-Ray player...
I wasn't actually advocating that anyone buy my particular setup though I'm very happy with it and I've had it for years now. There are better value units out there now but I was happily ahead of the curve. You can get an Xtreamer or WD TV amongst others for under a ton and they'll play all your movies and music as well as supporting full HD and almost every codec out there. Yes, there's no streaming content (Apple content will soon add up costwise anyway) other than internet radio but as media streamers they're a hundred times more versatile than the Apple TV. As for Bluray, I prefer flicking through my collection from the comfort of my sofa, each to their own
If all you want to do is stream some Apple content then fair enough, buy an Apple TV. I just think it's very poor value for money and, as always, Apple pretends that nothing else exists except their own formats.
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davy_c:Yes, there's no streaming content (Apple content will soon add up costwise anyway) other than internet radio but as media streamers they're a hundred times more versatile than the Apple TV. As for Bluray, I prefer flicking through my collection from the comfort of my sofa, each to their own
If all you want to do is stream some Apple content then fair enough, buy an Apple TV. I just think it's very poor value for money and, as always, Apple pretends that nothing else exists except their own formats.
Some podcasts are free to stream on Apple TV like Religion & Spirituality.
Some podcasts are free to stream on Apple TV like Religion & Spirituality.
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