rainsoothe said:
I think that the Plato is ugly af, a miditower PC case with a screen.
Many people will like the simple, clean look. Others might want knobs. All personal preference. Unlike most hi-fi that only comes in black, or possibly silver too, it can be bought in any colour, which is an increasing requirement.
I also find Davidf's comment, in the other thread, about Naim lacking grip on speakers, pretty dubious, but if he doesn't deal Naim, there must be something wrong with it, at least compared to the better and cheaper brand he's stocking.
If you can’t handle the truth...
I’ve been a Naim dealer since 1990 on and off, and for the last 11 year’s up until a year ago. I’ve done many, many dems using the Nait amplification (and others), with numerous speakers, so I know exactly how they sound and compare. Anybody who has spoken to me about Naits in the past will have heard me say that there’s a certain amount of character to the Nait amplifiers, as they have a ‘loose’ bass, creating a warmth that a lot of people like. So this isn’t me trying to be negative on here because I am not a Naim dealer - this is what I’ve been saying for years. It’s very easy to demonstrate too. If you want an example, drive a pair of KEF R500s with a Nait or Nait XS, then put on the equivalent Primare/Exposure/Hegel etc etc. Plain as day. But as I say, some people prefer this, or haven’t experienced anything else, or maybe don’t even listen to the type of music that will convey this difference well.
Now say what you will about Naim, they're far from perfect, and it all depends on taste, I understand why some don't like the presentation, but to say they can't grip speakers properly makes me raise my eyebrow. My qualm with the SN2 was that it was actually too "grippy", and wanted to hit me with the Martin Logan Motion 40 even when the music did not demand it. Or does "having grip" mean a dry presentation?
Like the SuperUniti, the SuperNait 2 is different.
On the point of remotes - I use mine all the time, it's much quicker, being tactile and all, don't have to look at it etc. Only use the app to start the stream or play the album. Stop trying to sell by downplaying the usefulness of a remote (and inventing apocalyptic scenarios where remotes break all over the world at an alarming rate) and instead try to make an objective recommendation.
Remotes break. They also get clogged up with grunge from the day to day grime that lives on our fingers, particularly those who don’t wash their hands as often as others. Just look at computer keyboards. Now I’m all for remotes like the non Sky Q remote, as it’s an easy remote to learn and to use without looking at it, same with my Oppo remote - learn that into a touch screen remote and you’ve lost that, there’s a downside to everything. But more and more people are using their phones and tablets to control their electronics, so it’s a valid point. Over 27 years I’ve had people walking in with old (and sometimes quite complex) remotes that no longer work and they ask for replacements - the majority of the time you can’t get them anymore, and if you can, it could be £50-100 for a replacement. If you own a phone or tablet, chances are you’ll never not have one in the future, so your lost or broken remote worries no longer exist.
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