marantz m-cr610 partners

[anis.67]

Hello all im looking to see if this great little amp is man enough to power some floorstanders like the qa 2050 i or tannoy dc6t etc etc ..im thinking if i shortlist the ones with high sensitivity (ie 87-90) i should be ok?

I'm after good bass for rap and dance music but i often put on a bit of jazz and blues now and again,your learned thoughts are welcome.(especially if you have the new marantz)..regards anis ..in epsom..

 

[audioaddict]

hi mate i have the cr603 which powers my bw cm1 84db very well so im sure the new and probably better will have no trouble driving the speakers you mention

 

[EvPa]

Hello Anis,

I was actually going to make a thread on the very same subject when I saw yours.

I would also like to know others' opinion regarding partnering the new M-CR610 with Tannoy’s DC6Ts (or DC6TSEs).

As I said in my comment on the review's page, due to my location (Mauritius) I am unable to do any pre-purchase listening locally and, for transport/logistics reasons, would be able to partner it with either DALI (Zensor, Lektor or Ikon series), Monitor Audio (BX5 or RX6) or Tannoy (aforementioned models) floorstanders.

I have already listened to the MA RX6s and Tannoy DC6Ts (not the Special Editions) in Dubai and liked their performance, they were connected to various electronics though.

I mostly listen to classical, jazz and electronic music.

I'm interested in the M-CR610 due to its versatility and might use it as a source for a separate amplifier in the future, if I ever need to do so.

Thanks in advance.

 

[anis.67]

thanks its good to get some owners with their setups responding...

 

[chebby]

I'm interested in the M-CR610 due to its versatility and might use it as a source for a separate amplifier in the future, if I ever need to do so.

So long as the 'seperate amplifier' is an integrated amplifier and not a power amplifier. (There is no 'pre-out' on the M-CR610.)

Personally I would not consider the M-CR610 as an ideal candidate for driving large speakers at loud volumes. (Especially if the room is large.)

 

[audioaddict]

yep good call chebby the amps on these micros shldnt be underestimated.............i dont know the power output on the cr510 ..........in fact i,m not entirely sure the output on the 603 ...officially i think its 60 watts a side but others have said its only 40 ........either way if it can drive my low sensitivity cm1s then it will sing very nicely with 90 db and above . Before i bought mine i did here it with dali fazor 5 and it sounded incredible

 

[audioaddict]

in fact i stuck a post on titled: are my ears deceiving me....if thats any help

 

[SiUK]

I think if you wanted to use the M-CR610 in a large room and with large speakers you would more than likely be very dissappointed.

 

[anis.67]

may have to rethink and go back to looking at the cyrus 6 dac instead ,im just looking for a good sound with loads of connectivity that can drive a pair of floorstanders playing rap/dance music oh and it must come in at under £1500..might look at the nad 7050 too

 

[SiUK]

Is your room that large then? Someone from the What HiFi team (Ketan Bharadia I think) responded to someone asking about the M-CR610 driving QA 2050is and said it would drive them okay. Just to put in in perspective. My response was based on having had the M-CR610 for a while now so don't be put off by what I posted. From my own experience of the Marantz I just think I'd be dissappointed if it was used in a large room with large speakers. But the 2050is are sensitive so I don't really know.

 

[davedotco]

The M-CR 610 is a micro system and as such has a power spec that is hopelessly optimistic.

Pair it with reasonably sensitive, easy to drive speakers playing mainstream music at sensible levels and the balance that the Marantz engineers have built into the 610 gives an outstanding performance for the money.

But and a big but, more difficult speakers, bass driven music and the need to play at a higher level will quickly see the sound fall apart, common sense really.

 

[audioaddict]

you.;l be surprised how loud these systems do go but if the room is massive youre not gonna get concert levels but yoy.d still be surprised at the vlume/power on tap

 

[davedotco]

you.;l be surprised how loud these systems do go but if the room is massive youre not gonna get concert levels but yoy.d still be surprised at the vlume/power on tap

I guess it depends what you are used to.

 

[anis.67]

thanks to all for posting im reading every day its a learn curve..i will demo before purchasing thanks...it would be good to get m-cr610 owners on this with their setups and opinions ....i wonder what speakers the whf team used for the test??

 

[audioaddict]

my previous system had 125 watt mono blocs so im used to plenty of power and no this doesnt come close to thatsort of grunt but it still fills my house with plenty sound and dont feel im missing out

 

[audioaddict]

i cldnt have said it better myself chebby which is why i went down the same route...........my audio system complete with arcam t32 tuner cables etc cost me near 2.5 k and my 603 cost me 380 and im 100 per cent happier with what i have now..........plus youre right in saying that people go too much on specs power ratings etc .........i am now listening to queen live at wembley which is a truly thunderous concert and ive turned the volume to about half way .......sounds awsome but after a while just too loud and thats with 84db speakers ..........i.d suggest anyone worrying about it driving bigger speakers shouldnt have too many worries especially ones in the 90db and above range ........i think the op mentioned q acoustic 2050i which i think would produce a huge sound stage with the new marantz

 

[audioaddict]

i cldnt have said it better myself chebby which is why i went down the same route...........my audio system complete with arcam t32 tuner cables etc cost me near 2.5 k and my 603 cost me 380 and im 100 per cent happier with what i have now..........plus youre right in saying that people go too much on specs power ratings etc .........i am now listening to queen live at wembley which is a truly thunderous concert and ive turned the volume to about half way .......sounds awsome but after a while just too loud and thats with 84db speakers ..........i.d suggest anyone worrying about it driving bigger speakers shouldnt have too many worries especially ones in the 90db and above range ........i think the op mentioned q acoustic 2050i which i think would produce a huge sound stage with the new marantz

 

[audioaddict]

sorry double post

 

[anis.67]

ok all thankyou very much but its time to jump in ...demo room booked at guildford sevenoaks hifi for thursday at 1030.

m-cr610 and qa 2050i to start then trying others ..taking me own music and will let you know....regards...anis

 

[pcookie]

I'm listening to my m-cr603 through a pair of Focal 706v's and the sound is superb. Slightly laid back at lower volume, but punchy and entertaining at louder volumes. Focal is often overlooked, but now Richer Sounds stock the new versions, you should be able to demo with the 610.

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[anis.67]

hello all just back from guildford and tested the m-cr610 AND the nad 7050 with the following speakers

qa concept 20

ma rx1

b&w 685

have to say you cant go wrong with either amp and the nad is the smoother / better sounding but at twice the price the difference is not worth it both amps sounded excellent with the rx1 and b&w 685 (these gave out much more bass than the QA) qa were very good to but would suit the classical music or more vocals driven listener. the guy in store stated the nad sounds sublime with the kef ls50 but i did not try as out of my price range.The cr610 has more raw power and i was not tempted to over ,more than 70% of the volume dial but the nad i had to take upto full for the same effect (but it was a lot smoother and sounded as good at max as it did at 50%).i will try the qa 2050i and the focal 706 before i bite the bullet but i am leaning toward the cr610 but as mentioned you really cant go wrong here they are both a lot of fun..regards...anis

ps played old school rap and heavy bass tunes and oldies and jazz and chart music all good!!

 

[nopiano]

Interesting thread. I'm thinking of following Chebby's route in our recently purchased cottage - c. 1850 - as we have surpringly good internet speed and I fancy an all-in-one with some modest speakers. Come to think of it, I still have some old Mission 700s somewhere!

Waiting for the thread that asks about the 610 with KEF LS50s, as the 603 predecessor was considered bit of a giant slayer.

 

[anis.67]

ok all just thought i would post and close out my own question with the findings....

i tested the cr610 with all manner of speakers including some floorstanders ..dali zensor 5 and ma bx5 all the usual bookshelf suspects too ie ma rx1,qa concept 20,b&w 685,and the best by far is the new dali zensor 3 which were the very last speakers i listened to and only because they were lying on the stairs on the way to the demo room... package being purchased for christmas will be mcr610 with flx or qed cable and dali zensor 3 speakers and a good pair of stands (prob dreadnoughts) job done!!

 

[germe]

hey guys what do you think about this question?

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/dacs/marantz-mcr610-dac

 

[chebby]

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