Marantz CD-6005, with older Marantz PM65 amplifier?

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I'm considering buying the Marantz CD-6005, but will I need to upgrade to a new amplifier? I already have an old Marantz PM65.
 

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is what matters and looking at the specs, the older pm-65 seems more powerful than the newer pm-6005. Good advice guys, thank you
 

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Is a network audio player something you have as well as or instead of an amplifier? I was just reading about the Marantz NA6005, but don't quite get it
 

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sally said:
Is a network audio player something you have as well as or instead of an amplifier? I was just reading about the Marantz NA6005, but don't quite get it

As well as: it's a source component, like a CD player, except instead of playing discs it connects to your home broadband to play music streamed from services such as Spotify, internet radio stations, and also any music you have stored on a home computer or Netwrok Attached Storage hard drive connected to your home network.
 

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Thanks, that makes much more sense than what I read on the Marantz website. They should have a simplified explanation for muppets like me
 

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You all live in UK, where audio gears are quite inexpensive. Based on this premise, I don't understand why you spend your money on low performance equipment like Marantz CD6005. What's more, I see no reason to purchase plain CD players these days when lots of low priced high quality external DACs are available.

Sally, If I were you, I'd use an existing DVD or BD player (I'm pretty sure you have one of those at home) as a transport together with an external DAC. Any British brand 300 pounds DAC will outperform Marantz CD6005 by far and you'll have the advantage of getting higher audio performance from your DVDs and BDs when watching movies or music clips.

I'm my opinion, it makes only sense purchasing a dedicated CD player if you are after a genuine audiophile player where transport quality makes difference. It's not your case for sure!
 
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You all live in UK, where audio gears are quite inexpensive. Based on this premise, I don't understand why you spend your money on low performance equipment like Marantz CD6005. What's more, I see no reason to purchase plain CD players these days when lots of low priced high quality external DACs are available.

Sally, If I were you, I'd use an existing DVD or BD player (I'm pretty sure you have one of those at home) as a transport together with an external DAC. Any British brand 300 pounds DAC will outperform Marantz CD6005 by far and you'll have the advantage of getting higher audio performance from your DVDs and BDs when watching movies or music clips.

I'm my opinion, it makes only sense purchasing a dedicated CD player if you are after a genuine audiophile player where transport quality makes difference. It's not your case for sure!

Please define what you consider to be the term "inexpensive".
 

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Audio Maniac said:
What's more, I see no reason to purchase plain CD players these days when lots of low priced high quality external DACs are available.

You also miss the point that some people just simply want a dedicated CD player, optimised for the task.

Audio Maniac said:
I'm my opinion, it makes only sense purchasing a dedicated CD player if you are after a genuine audiophile player where transport quality makes difference.

That's a different argument altogether but if you're of the opinion that only a 'genuine audiophile player' has a transport good enough to read the disc properly, then all the lower-end manufacturers are doing something terribly wrong considering a £15 USB drive can read a CD bit-perfectly.
 

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You misunderstood my post. What I meant is that an external DAC would bring a similar performance of Marantz CD6005 for half of the price.

I also meant that a dedicated CD player does only make sense for someone looking for audiophile gears, otherwise a combo cheap BD player (I'm considering everyone has one of this at home) + external DAC will be for sure a cheaper and perhaps a better solution. Marantz CD6005 transport section is as "cheap" as mass consumer BD players, so why speding $ if it will not bring any performance gain?

In sum, there's no advantage of purchasing a CD player like CD6005. It'll be a more expesive solution than getting a DAC and there will be an one more component occupying space on the rack.

On other hand, if someone owns a high-end system and is willing to get a high grade digital source, a dedicated CD/SACD player like Marantz SA11-S3, Accuphase MD-410 or Luxman D-06u or a dedicated transport (in case of transport + DAC solution) is a must. At this level, negative effect of jitter does affect sound quality.

In budget digital sources, the low quality of both D/A convertion and analogue section degrades sound quality much more than trasport section. I mean, the latter's effects on budget sources are too insignificant to be considered.

That's it!

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Audio Maniac said:
What's more, I see no reason to purchase plain CD players these days when lots of low priced high quality external DACs are available.

You also miss the point that some people just simply want a dedicated CD player, optimised for the task.

Audio Maniac said:
I'm my opinion, it makes only sense purchasing a dedicated CD player if you are after a genuine audiophile player where transport quality makes difference.

That's a different argument altogether but if you're of the opinion that only a 'genuine audiophile player' has a transport good enough to read the disc properly, then all the lower-end manufacturers are doing something terribly wrong considering a £15 USB drive can read a CD bit-perfectly.
 

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From purely a technical perspective it's difficult to disagree with your argument, but it's still true that many people just simply want to play their CDs on a CD player. Also to address your other opint about cost, £1,000 is a lot of money to most people.
 

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I lived in the UK a decade and half ago. At tha time, most hi-fi hobbyist were wealth enough to purchase an under 1000 pounds hi-fi component. Anyway, I have to agree everyone has their on budget constraints that is very personal. Some would prefer to spend more on cars, others on hi-fi gears. It's undeniable!

Anyway, If someone is willing to get an entry level CD player, I'd recommend something like ARCAM CDS27. The referred ARCAM a bit more expensive than Marantz CD6005 but it's much better sonically and technically (better built with higher grade electronic components).
 

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