Maplins speaker cable?

[ifor]

Which speaker cable from Maplins is it that so many say is as good as one needs?

 

[Thompsonuxb]

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[ifor]

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There is no need for that. It's a straightforward question and I hope for a straightforward answer so that I can buy some.

 

[bigboss]

I've got this one.

 

[andyjm]

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There is no need for that. It's a straightforward question and I hope for a straightforward answer so that I can buy some.

Nothing wrong with Maplin cable. Their copper is just as good as fancy name brands.

Aim for something with a cross sectional area of at least 2.5mm sq for each conductor, and you will be fine.

 

[ifor]

Thanks.

 

[Thompsonuxb]

...... *ROFL*

There is no need for that.  It's a straightforward question and I hope for a straightforward answer so that I can buy some.

I thought you were teasing. Sorry if I mis - interpreted the gist of your post.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

The quality ain't what it used to be.

If you went so far as to buy the A5's - surely it's worth 'trying' a more exotic cable?

 

[ifor]

It's not for the A5s.

 

[Electro]

This is the one many professionals use .

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/van-damme-speaker-cable-tour-grade-2-x-25mm-twin-axial-black-priced-per-metre-n01ju?gclid=Cj0KEQjwvJqvBRCL77m2-uKczsIBEiQAkx8VjMEk9FtsDnqe8uGh2n5Eq9_SpLPeJblpiExJ-Vrs3okaAgFC8P8HAQ

I use the one below and imo it is about as good as it gets *smile*

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Damme-HIFI-Series-Studio-Grade-Loudspeaker-Cable-2-X-4-00mm-268-504-000/141546704296?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32956%26meid%3D8287b8d755c1460ab3b0bcdd27375487%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D180714473389

 

[bigboss]

...... *ROFL*

There is no need for that. It's a straightforward question and I hope for a straightforward answer so that I can buy some.

I thought you were teasing. Sorry if I mis - interpreted the gist of your post.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

The quality ain't what it used to be.

If you went so far as to buy the A5's - surely it's worth 'trying' a more exotic cable?

I can confirm that the cable I linked above is copper to the core. It is 79 strand which is perfect for speaker cables.

 

[ifor]

Thanks again guys.

 

[MajorFubar]

I use the one below and imo it is about as good as it gets *smile*

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Damme-HIFI-Series-Studio-Grade-Loudspeaker-Cable-2-X-4-00mm-268-504-000/141546704296?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32956%26meid%3D8287b8d755c1460ab3b0bcdd27375487%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D180714473389

+1 on this...I use the same stuff and it's excellent. Highly recommended. Paying more than this is for rich gullible suckers who failed their physics GCSE. You really can't go wrong. *good*

 

[BigH]

Van Damme Blue is probably the one. And no I don't think you do always get what you pay for with HiFi accessories, many have high price mark-ups compared to "pro" cables.

 

[Vladimir]

Van Damme HIFI Series Studio Grade Loudspeaker Cable 2 X 4.00mm

Ahh, you cheated! The strands are hair thin and can't be simply drawn around a solid none copper core like the experts warn us.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

 

[michael hoy]

This is the one many professionals use .

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/van-damme-speaker-cable-tour-grade-2-x-25mm-twin-axial-black-priced-per-metre-n01ju?gclid=Cj0KEQjwvJqvBRCL77m2-uKczsIBEiQAkx8VjMEk9FtsDnqe8uGh2n5Eq9_SpLPeJblpiExJ-Vrs3okaAgFC8P8HAQ

I use the one below and imo it is about as good as it gets *smile*

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Damme-HIFI-Series-Studio-Grade-Loudspeaker-Cable-2-X-4-00mm-268-504-000/141546704296?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32956%26meid%3D8287b8d755c1460ab3b0bcdd27375487%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D180714473389

Thats the one i use as well.

 

[Thompsonuxb]

Van Damme HIFI Series Studio Grade Loudspeaker Cable 2 X 4.00mm

Ahh, you cheated! The strands are hair thin and can't be simply drawn around a solid none copper core like the experts warn us.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

Hair thin is not an issue with today's manufacturering methods.

In telecoms it's common practice in the production of cables. It filters down/out.

The availability or cost of copper/silver is an issue though.

So chances are you are getting what you pay for.

You make of that what you will.

 

[bigboss]

Van Damme HIFI Series Studio Grade Loudspeaker Cable 2 X 4.00mm

Ahh, you cheated! The strands are hair thin and can't be simply drawn around a solid none copper core like the experts warn us.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

Hair thin is not an issue with today's manufacturering methods.

In telecoms it's common practice in the production of cables. It filters down/out.

The availability or cost of copper/silver is an issue though.

So chances are you are getting what you pay for.

You make of that what you will.

How do you know what's the true cost of copper? As I explained above, the cable I linked to is copper to the core and I'm using it in my system without any performance deterioration.

And what about the cables with hocus pocus claims by the manufacturers and hiked up prices? Do you get what you pay for?

 

[lindsayt]

Maplins are fine if you want something in a hurry, or are buying something for less than £5.

Otherwise, you can find the same or better products for less money elsewhere.

For speaker cables you can get ones with a lot more copper per metre for less money from ebay.

 

[The_Lhc]

Van Damme HIFI Series Studio Grade Loudspeaker Cable 2 X 4.00mm

Ahh, you cheated! The strands are hair thin and can't be simply drawn around a solid none copper core like the experts warn us.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

Hair thin is not an issue with today's manufacturering methods.

In telecoms it's common practice in the production of cables. It filters down/out.

The availability or cost of copper/silver is an issue though.

So chances are you are getting what you pay for.

You make of that what you will.

How do you know what's the true cost of copper? As I explained above, the cable I linked to is copper to the core and I'm using it in my system without any performance deterioration.

And what about the cables with hocus pocus claims by the manufacturers and hiked up prices? Do you get what you pay for?

Copper today is half the price it was 5 years ago:

http://m.nasdaq.com/markets/copper.aspx?timeframe=5y

 

[andyjm]

...... *ROFL*

There is no need for that. It's a straightforward question and I hope for a straightforward answer so that I can buy some.

I thought you were teasing. Sorry if I mis - interpreted the gist of your post.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

The quality ain't what it used to be.

If you went so far as to buy the A5's - surely it's worth 'trying' a more exotic cable?

Yet again, a load of old nonsense that simply using Wikipedia would solve. Aluminium is a better conductor than copper by weight, copper is a better conductor than aluminium by volume. You would have thought that the national grid would know a thing or two about cables, with all those overhead wires carrying all that power. Copper? No. Aluminium over a steel core for strength. Aluminium is much cheaper than copper but it has a flaw, it forms a surface oxide that makes connection difficult. CCA is copper covered aluminium - with the price and weight advantages of aluminium, but the lack of aluminium's surface oxide problems. Nothing wrong with it, but it does need more careful handling than solid copper. Given the amount of copper in a normal speaker cable, there is no point using CCA to save money, and weight is rarely a problem - you might as well use copper. The biggest cost in fancy cables is the marketing.

 

[Vladimir]

Van Damme HIFI Series Studio Grade Loudspeaker Cable 2 X 4.00mm

Ahh, you cheated! The strands are hair thin and can't be simply drawn around a solid none copper core like the experts warn us.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

Hair thin is not an issue with today's manufacturering methods.

In telecoms it's common practice in the production of cables. It filters down/out.

The availability or cost of copper/silver is an issue though.

So chances are you are getting what you pay for.

You make of that what you will.

I know you are right. I was merely making a funny. Give a wire a simple scratch test, measure resistance with a multimeter and you'll know what you got.

Entertaining 3 part video series on the topic.

 

[Thompsonuxb]

...... *ROFL*

There is no need for that.  It's a straightforward question and I hope for a straightforward answer so that I can buy some.

I thought you were teasing. Sorry if I mis - interpreted the gist of your post.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

The quality ain't what it used to be.

If you went so far as to buy the A5's - surely it's worth 'trying' a more exotic cable?

Yet again, a load of old nonsense that simply using Wikipedia would solve.  Aluminium is a better conductor than copper by weight, copper is a better conductor than aluminium by volume.  You would have thought that the national grid would know a thing or two about cables, with all those overhead wires carrying all that power.  Copper? No. Aluminium over a steel core for strength.  Aluminium is much cheaper than copper but it has a flaw, it forms a surface oxide that makes connection difficult.  CCA is copper covered aluminium - with the price and weight advantages of aluminium, but the lack of aluminium's surface oxide problems.  Nothing wrong with it, but it does need more careful handling than solid copper.  Given the amount of copper in a normal speaker cable, there is no point using CCA to save money, and weight is rarely a problem - you might as well use copper.  The biggest cost in fancy cables is the marketing.

?????

Andy, sorry not getting your point, please clarify - are you suggesting I'm talking nonesense?

 

[andyjm]

...... *ROFL*

There is no need for that. It's a straightforward question and I hope for a straightforward answer so that I can buy some.

I thought you were teasing. Sorry if I mis - interpreted the gist of your post.

You get what you pay for I suppose. Modern 'cheap' cables are drawn around a solid none copper core. Helps with the gauge.

The quality ain't what it used to be.

If you went so far as to buy the A5's - surely it's worth 'trying' a more exotic cable?

Yet again, a load of old nonsense that simply using Wikipedia would solve. Aluminium is a better conductor than copper by weight, copper is a better conductor than aluminium by volume. You would have thought that the national grid would know a thing or two about cables, with all those overhead wires carrying all that power. Copper? No. Aluminium over a steel core for strength. Aluminium is much cheaper than copper but it has a flaw, it forms a surface oxide that makes connection difficult. CCA is copper covered aluminium - with the price and weight advantages of aluminium, but the lack of aluminium's surface oxide problems. Nothing wrong with it, but it does need more careful handling than solid copper. Given the amount of copper in a normal speaker cable, there is no point using CCA to save money, and weight is rarely a problem - you might as well use copper. The biggest cost in fancy cables is the marketing.

?????

Andy, sorry not getting your point, please clarify - are you suggesting I'm talking nonesense?

i may have gone into too much detail. Your post suggested that somehow copper covered cable was inferior, and that it had something to do with 'the gauge'. I was trying to point out that cheap 'non copper' cables are used to power the country, and that CCA cable has its uses.

Perhaps nonsense was a bit harsh, though I am afraid I still don't understand what you were trying to say.

 

[Thompsonuxb]

Copper covered cable inferior to solid 'copper' core cable?

What's your opinion on that Andy?

If we are talking the transmission of information i.e data, voice etc. Bandwidth is the be all....

In any exchange, long runs copper was the medium.

While it still is for the local loop fibre optic is now replacing it for longer runs. Ask your friendly local 'traveler'

I'm not familiar with the power grid. But for voice, data Its always been copper.

Check out the latest Virgin Media adverts.

 

[MajorFubar]

Maplins are fine if you want something in a hurry, or are buying something for less than £5.

Otherwise, you can find the same or better products for less money elsewhere.

For speaker cables you can get ones with a lot more copper per metre for less money from ebay.

Probably true, but sometimes it's nice to support a real shop, before one day there aren't any left .