Mains conditioners

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When they know they dont have an answer, they then try to find something amusing to say about the whole thing (seems to be very common on this forum)
 
aliEnRIK:When they know they dont have an answer, they then try to find something amusing to say about the whole thing (seems to be very common on this forum)to what? all my a.v. equipment works just fine and dandy
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and rik, lighten up eh?
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steve_1979:darrell 1966:

Perhaps you should have pluged yourself into it and filter that sarcasome of yours.....
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I've just ordered a Tacima mains filter yesterday and am now waiting with open minded scepticism to see how well it works when it arrives. I have high hopes because I live in an old victorian house with less than perfect wiring which seems to cause alot of interfefance on the TV with both freeview and DVD's.

Steve, or anyone else who can answer. Can you tell me how the interference manifests itself? What are you seeing or hearing? I'd like to know so that I could seperate what could be electrical interference from the occassional glitches that occur while watching cable tv.

Cheers, Rich
 
Oh, I enjoyed reading the last few posts. Nail/head springs to mind!

John Linsley Hood, bit of a master, that one!

Ah, lovely 🙂
 
8009514:Steve, or anyone else who can answer. Can you tell me how the interference manifests itself? What are you seeing or hearing? I'd like to know so that I could seperate what could be electrical interference from the occassional glitches that occur while watching cable tv.

Cheers, Rich

On the TV downstairs the picture quality mostly ok but is always a little bit fuzzy (even with DVD's) and we are unable to get some of the freeview channels because the signal strength is too weak. Also if a taxi or police car drives past the house we lose all of the freeview signal for a few seconds. We've tried several different TV's, DVD players, freeview boxes, cables and ariels but the problem always persists.

However, when this exact same setup is used upstairs everything works fine. Perfectly sharp and clear TV picture with both DVD's and freeview. The freeview signal is also much stronger too. The upstairs mains is on a different circuit the the downstairs mains so I think that this might be the cause of the problem.
 
maxflinn:
to what?

Youve been asked to back up your 'claims' with actual electronics facts rather then stating 'I dont believe in cables and conditioners even though I dont have a clue about how electrics work'.
maxflinn:
all my a.v. equipment works just fine and dandy
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My Arcam A85 worked just fine. In fact id go so far as it say it sounded awesome (especially when playing NIN reptile). But then I could go on to say it sounded even better after trying out an isotek elite mains cable
maxflinn:
and rik, lighten up eh?
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Im cool. I just dont like people spewing up what they believe with no actual facts behind them.

Its a bit like me stating a Ferrari F40 is a bit pap on corners. Ive never even driven one, let alone know the mechanics behind them............
 
aliEnRIK:maxflinn:
to what?

Youve been asked to back up your 'claims' with actual electronics facts rather then stating 'I dont believe in cables and conditioners even though I dont have a clue about how electrics work'.
maxflinn:
all my a.v. equipment works just fine and dandy
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My Arcam A85 worked just fine. In fact id go so far as it say it sounded awesome (especially when playing NIN reptile). But then I could go on to say it sounded even better after trying out an isotek elite mains cable
maxflinn:
and rik, lighten up eh?
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Im cool. I just dont like people spewing up what they believe with no actual facts behind them.

Its a bit like me stating a Ferrari F40 is a bit pap on corners. Ive never even driven one, let alone know the mechanics behind them............

ill start a thread later about hdmi cables, hopefully we can exchange views there? as i'm keen to test out my new logic on believers
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How about a earth is flat thread?

People used to believe that as well.
 
maxflinn:ill start a thread later about hdmi cables, hopefully we can exchange views there? as i'm keen to test out my new logic on believers
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So your going to comment on yet another subject you dont really understand or know anything about?
 
An eye opener for me regarding mains conditioners was when I used one on a samsung lcd tv I have in my bedroom. I have 2 of these tv's, & after looking on the internet they both seemed to have had the same common problem with this tv regarding the power boards giving up.
The tv would become very hard to turn on you could have to hold the on button in for a minute or so before the tv would come on, you would just have the stand by light flashing why the tv tried to kick in.
With one of the tv's I had to change the mains board to fix as it completely gave up, the other I used a spare qed mains conditioner I had with it & the problem reduced massively.
I do believe a mains conditioner can give your electrical item's I longer life by feeding them a smoother power supply.
 
I recall using my old philips tv and freeview box with the 1st mains conditioner I bought. The picture was FAR better using the conditioner. The downside was the tv wouldnt turn on using the remote! I lived with that as the picture was so much better
 
I had a problem with mine as well, 4 of the 16v caps on the mains board were blown.
Replaced them all (8) with 25v ones of the same value. Works fine now.

You made a good point, a clean and stable 220v AC supply allows equipment to work at its optimum along with the bonus of increasing the life of its components.
 
8009514:steve_1979:darrell 1966:

Perhaps you should have pluged yourself into it and filter that sarcasome of yours.....
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I've just ordered a Tacima mains filter yesterday and am now waiting with open minded scepticism to see how well it works when it arrives. I have high hopes because I live in an old victorian house with less than perfect wiring which seems to cause alot of interfefance on the TV with both freeview and DVD's.

Steve, or anyone else who can answer. Can you tell me how the interference manifests itself? What are you seeing or hearing? I'd like to know so that I could seperate what could be electrical interference from the occassional glitches that occur while watching cable tv.

Cheers, Rich

Define what your occassional glitches are, Is it picture quility or picture loss,sound quality or sound loss,?

Have you just installed the eqipment and was it there from the moment you had it installed?

Or have you always had this eqipment ,its been ok up until this moment in time but this problem has only just started?

The most common reason for interferance is simply down to loose connections on cables both AC current and interconnection signals between av and hifi eqipment. As you are connected to cable tv this signal would more than likely be strong, so I dout it would be down to the signal, not unless your service provider is having problems.

But if I was you check all your connections are clean and secure that includes AC plugs inside and out if any of the connections are loss in there sockets then change them .
 
darrell 1966:
Define what your occassional glitches are, Is it picture quility or picture loss,sound quality or sound loss,?

Have you just installed the eqipment and was it there from the moment you had it installed?

Or have you always had this eqipment ,its been ok up until this moment in time but this problem has only just started?

The most common reason for interferance is simply down to loose connections on cables both AC current and interconnection signals between av and hifi eqipment. As you are connected to cable tv this signal would more than likely be strong, so I dout it would be down to the signal, not unless your service provider is having problems.

But if I was you check all your connections are clean and secure that includes AC plugs inside and out if any of the connections are loss in there sockets then change them .

Hi darrell, any glitches I get normally show up as an occassional freeze or blocking for a couple of seconds. Absolutely nothing wrong with the set up on my gear, everything screwed up tight. You would be hard pushed to find a better cable install than mine, I work for them. Because of that I usually know whats occuring in the background on the system which may cause problems.

As far as mains interference goes, in 40 years of interest in HiFi and AV I can't honestly put my hand up and say for certain I've experienced it. (apart from a thermostat fault some years ago. But that was a faulty thermostat not the mains itself). I do have a Tacima, it did nothing on the HiFi side but with the gear I have now I wouldn't really expect it to. Transferred it the AV kit and I suppose I could say that DVD playback appeared to be a little sharper, hard to say though as it was pretty good already. Left the Tacima in anyway, a no brainer to have surge protection in place no matter what.

Rich
 
aliEnRIK:
maxflinn:ill start a thread later about hdmi cables, hopefully we can exchange views there? as i'm keen to test out my new logic on believers
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So your going to comment on yet another subject you dont really understand or know anything about?
logic is a powerful thing.. later rik
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8009514:darrell 1966:

Define what your occassional glitches are, Is it picture quility or picture loss,sound quality or sound loss,?

Have you just installed the eqipment and was it there from the moment you had it installed?

Or have you always had this eqipment ,its been ok up until this moment in time but this problem has only just started?

The most common reason for interferance is simply down to loose connections on cables both AC current and interconnection signals between av and hifi eqipment. As you are connected to cable tv this signal would more than likely be strong, so I dout it would be down to the signal, not unless your service provider is having problems.

But if I was you check all your connections are clean and secure that includes AC plugs inside and out if any of the connections are loss in there sockets then change them .

Hi darrell, any glitches I get normally show up as an occassional freeze or blocking for a couple of seconds. Absolutely nothing wrong with the set up on my gear, everything screwed up tight. You would be hard pushed to find a better cable install than mine, I work for them. Because of that I usually know whats occuring in the background on the system which may cause problems.

As far as mains interference goes, in 40 years of interest in HiFi and AV I can't honestly put my hand up and say for certain I've experienced it. (apart from a thermostat fault some years ago. But that was a faulty thermostat not the mains itself). I do have a Tacima, it did nothing on the HiFi side but with the gear I have now I wouldn't really expect it to. Transferred it the AV kit and I suppose I could say that DVD playback appeared to be a little sharper, hard to say though as it was pretty good already. Left the Tacima in anyway, a no brainer to have surge protection in place no matter what.

Rich

Hi Rich, sorry matte I thought it was yourself that was having problems with your set up , now reading back I see you were asking questions to someone else and there problems. Forty years in the business a, I be quizzy you when I have problems, there's knout like experiance and knowledge combined.

Darrell
 
maxflinn:logic is a powerful thing.. later rik
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I have a question ready for when you open the thread in question
 
I have no problems with my mains, no clicks, noises, nothing, even when the chap next door starts drilling incessantly. My stereo sounds as good as it could be, so I deduce a mains conditioner would be pointless for me.

I can't help noticing that the champions of mains conditioners always have AV gear. So, is it fair to say that you don't need power conditioners if you have stereo but the extra complexity/sensitivity of AV means that one may be required?
 
the_lhc:Grottyash:My stereo sounds as good as it could beHow could you possibly know that?Usual way, by listening!
 
Grottyash:the_lhc:Grottyash:My stereo sounds as good as it could beHow could you possibly know that?Usual way, by listening!

Yes but unless you try all these various "improvements", how can you know that it sounds as good as it possibly can?
 
My post was about why AV gear seems to need the improvements you mention and stereo doesn't.

Do you have AV gear? Was it degraded by pops, clicks and rattles coming from the mains? Did conditioning fix the problem?

Do you have a separate stereo? Was it dogged with the same problems? Did conditioning fix the problem?
 
Ive never had 'pops and clicks' going through my system

And the first hifi item I ever tried a mains cable on was my arcam A85 - a stereo amp, which sounded a lot better with bass than with the generic lead
 
aliEnRIK:
Ive never had 'pops and clicks' going through my system

And the first hifi item I ever tried a mains cable on was my arcam A85 - a stereo amp, which sounded a lot better with bass than with the generic lead

alienrik, my question was about mains conditioners.
 

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