Love Died, But Music Lives On: Expert Speaker Advice Needed

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="MENISCUS"]I dunno, if she broke off the engagement, then she has broken the contract in which the ring was given,[/quote]

And they said romance was dead...

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"]
[quote user="MENISCUS"]I dunno, if she broke off the engagement, then she has broken the contract in which the ring was given,[/quote]

And they said romance was dead...
[/quote]

allegedly

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="JAXON5"]allegedly[/quote]

He probably should have got her to sign a contract at the time...

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"]
[quote user="JAXON5"]allegedly[/quote]

He probably should have got her to sign a contract at the time...
[/quote]

Claims Direct 'no win no fee'............(nah thats just nasty)

 

[Andrew Everard]

Suffered a slip or a fall at work? Been in a car accident that wasn't your fault? Tripped over a paving slab while chasing an ambulance...?

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="Clare Newsome"]
It's not ALL women, you know - my engagement ring, which I wear with pride every day, is a one-off silver creation I fell in love with in a surf shop in Cornwall. We'd done the whole trying-on-in-Tiffanys stuff, but it all felt too over-obvious. I encouraged him to spend the money on a new AV amp instead....

[/quote]

And he's going "b-gger, I only came in for some trunks".

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="fr0g"]I'd hold off buying anything. You have effectively stolen something from her. No matter what she did, you GAVE the ring to her, and it belonged to her. You have obtained this by deceit, and sold it. You could go to jail if she wants to be nasty.[/quote]aren't they meant to give them back if it gets broken off?sounds like you'll haave a wonderful system by the end of it. just hope it doesn't stop you getting out and about for those dates!

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="fr0g"]I'd hold off buying anything. You have effectively stolen something from her. No matter what she did, you GAVE the ring to her, and it belonged to her. You have obtained this by deceit, and sold it. You could go to jail if she wants to be nasty.[/quote]

Frog, she did actually threaten Legal action (which only
makes the heist that much sweeter) however in the Hong Kong Special Administrative
Region, which is the special legal jurisdiction we both live under, the ring
would remain my legal possession as purchaser and holder of the receipts until
I a.) Sold her the ring or b.) Legally assigned ownership to her.

Being caught up in the whole romance of the moment when I
gave her the ring I forgot to draw up legal papers or sell her the ring and
thus am entitled to the return of my property. She could have had a case had I
taken possession of the ring from her flat (which is technically burglary even
with my own goods) but unfortunately for
her she voluntarily gave the ring to an intermediary (albeit by deception which
again isn't illegal as there was no transaction).

Also, as I am also the designer of the ring, I own both the Intellectual
Property and arguably the prototype design (I only got round to making the one)
of the ring.

I could argue the moral obligations and commitments that an engagement
ring signifies but I'd rather just stand behind the excellent Chinese legal
system.

I'm off to test drive a pair of ProAc Response D Two armed
only with 'the queen is dead' and 'insomnia'

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="igglebert"][quote user="fr0g"]I'd hold off buying anything. You have effectively stolen something from her. No matter what she did, you GAVE the ring to her, and it belonged to her. You have obtained this by deceit, an sold it. You could go to jail if she wants to be nasty.[/quote]
At the very least I would delete parts of your posts....[/quote]

Well he can't now can he, because you (and now I) quoted him hehe. I don't think he has to worry though, especially if he has receipts for it.

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="lloydcole"]Frog, she did actually threaten Legal action (which only
makes the heist that much sweeter) however in the Hong Kong Special Administrative
Region, which is the special legal jurisdiction we both live under, the ring
would remain my legal possession as purchaser and holder of the receipts until
I a.) Sold her the ring or b.) Legally assigned ownership to her

[/quote]

wow that makes her all the more of a *** tbh. yeah I'm jilting you, but you can't have the ring back? wtf? did she try and nab a load of things off you too?

Mail her a ring shaped piece of plasticine with a love-heart sweet that says '***' embedded as the diamond

 

[Anonymous]

If perchance this gets made into a film I'd like to be in the credits please. Something like 'onlooker *2 in elevator or something like that. You know i'm not too fussy...........

 

[Andrew Everard]

Hell hath no fury like a man scorned, it seems...

 

[fr0g]

[quote user="lloydcole"]
[quote user="fr0g"]I'd hold off buying anything. You have effectively stolen something from her. No matter what she did, you GAVE the ring to her, and it belonged to her. You have obtained this by deceit, and sold it. You could go to jail if she wants to be nasty.[/quote]

Frog, she did actually threaten Legal action (which only
makes the heist that much sweeter) however in the Hong Kong Special Administrative
Region, which is the special legal jurisdiction we both live under, the ring
would remain my legal possession as purchaser and holder of the receipts until
I a.) Sold her the ring or b.) Legally assigned ownership to her.

Being caught up in the whole romance of the moment when I
gave her the ring I forgot to draw up legal papers or sell her the ring and
thus am entitled to the return of my property. She could have had a case had I
taken possession of the ring from her flat (which is technically burglary even
with my own goods) but unfortunately for
her she voluntarily gave the ring to an intermediary (albeit by deception which
again isn't illegal as there was no transaction).

Also, as I am also the designer of the ring, I own both the Intellectual
Property and arguably the prototype design (I only got round to making the one)
of the ring.

I could argue the moral obligations and commitments that an engagement
ring signifies but I'd rather just stand behind the excellent Chinese legal
system.

I'm off to test drive a pair of ProAc Response D Two armed
only with 'the queen is dead' and 'insomnia'

[/quote]

Lucky boy... How romantic

 

[timwileman]

does that mean that every single birthday or xmas pressie can be claimed back by the giver at any point.......unless said pressie has been legally signed over? pretty stupid law if you ask me...............''excellent legal system'' perhaps some people in tibet may beg to differ?..........but of course they cant can they.......

 

[Charlie Jefferson]

[quote user="fr0g"] armed
only with 'the queen is dead' [/quote]

I find Track 9 always works best in these situations. Don't know about you. All the best.

 

[fr0g]

[quote user="Charlie Jefferson"][quote user="NOT fr0g"] armed
only with 'the queen is dead' [/quote]

I find Track 9 always works best in these situations. Don't know about you. All the best.[/quote]

Please correct your quotes dude. I didnt say that, nor would I seeing as I can't stand the droning angry old man that is Morrissey.

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="timwileman"]'excellent legal system'' perhaps some people in tibet may beg to differ?..........but of course they cant can they.......[/quote]
Little bit of politics there, ladies and gennulmen...

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="fr0g"][quote user="Charlie Jefferson"][quote user="NOT fr0g"] armed
only with 'the queen is dead' [/quote]

I find Track 9 always works best in these situations. Don't know about you.
All the best.[/quote]

Please correct your quotes dude. I didnt say that, nor would I seeing as I can't stand the droning angry old man that is Morrissey. [/quote]

Ha, love this - never mind comments on the Chinese legal system, how DARE you suggest he listens to The Smiths.......

 

[fr0g]

[quote user="JohnDuncan"][quote user="fr0g"][quote user="Charlie Jefferson"][quote user="NOT fr0g"] armed
only with 'the queen is dead' [/quote]

I find Track 9 always works best in these situations. Don't know about you.
All the best.[/quote]

Please correct your quotes dude. I didnt say that, nor would I seeing as I can't stand the droning angry old man that is Morrissey. [/quote]

Ha, love this - never mind comments on the Chinese legal system, how DARE you suggest he listens to The Smiths.......

[/quote]

At least he didn't say I listened to Baroque classical... Now I would have been annoyed

 

[timwileman]

[quote user="fr0g"][quote user="JohnDuncan"][quote user="fr0g"][quote user="Charlie Jefferson"][quote user="NOT fr0g"] armed
only with 'the queen is dead' [/quote]

I find Track 9 always works best in these situations. Don't know about you.
All the best.[/quote]

Please correct your quotes dude. I didnt say that, nor would I seeing as I can't stand the droning angry old man that is Morrissey. [/quote]

Ha, love this - never mind comments on the Chinese legal system, how DARE you suggest he listens to The Smiths.......

[/quote]

At least he didn't say I listened to Baroque classical... Now I would have been annoyed [/quote] anyway the title 'the queen is dead' is factually incorrect and we should not encourage such nonsense should we

 

[Anonymous]

So we remain factual at all times I should just clarify that
the legal system in Hong Kong is still a mix of HK previously being a constitutional monarchy
under British rule with a separate independent justice system mixed with a small amount of the modern day Chinese
legal system, the biggest change since the handover is that barristers who had
been appointed Queen's Counsel are now known as Senior Counsel.

It's widely respected as being one of the fairest in the
world and has more checks and balances than most legal systems; I have no experience
of the Chinese legal system in the mainland but in accordance with the
"One Country, Two Systems" principle agreed between the UK and the China,
the socialist system of China won't be practiced in the Hong Kong, and our
previous capitalist system and its way of life will remain unchanged until 2047
when the Sino-British Joint Declaration ceases to be in force.

And track 9 is indeed a life affirming Ballard of hope, not
a drone or angry word in sight.

And if anybody cares, the ProAc's went off, definitely on
the short list.

 

[timwileman]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"][quote user="timwileman"]'excellent legal system'' perhaps some people in tibet may beg to differ?..........but of course they cant can they.......[/quote]
Little bit of politics there, ladies and gennulmen...
[/quote] i know very little about politics but my gut feeling is that beating people up who are protesting that they dont even have the right to protest is kinda not good....

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="timwileman"]anyway the title 'the queen is dead' is factually incorrect and we should not encourage such nonsense should we [/quote]

Elizabeth I, Mary, Victoria, Adelaide, to name but a few - all very much royal clogs popped.

Seems to be on pretty safe ground to me...

 

[timwileman]

[quote user="lloydcole"]

So we remain factual at all times I should just clarify that
the legal system in Hong Kong is still a mix of HK previously being a constitutional monarchy
under British rule with a separate independent justice system mixed with a small amount of the modern day Chinese
legal system, the biggest change since the handover is that barristers who had
been appointed Queen's Counsel are now known as Senior Counsel.

It's widely respected as being one of the fairest in the
world and has more checks and balances than most legal systems; I have no experience
of the Chinese legal system in the mainland but in accordance with the
"One Country, Two Systems" principle agreed between the UK and the China,
the socialist system of China won't be practiced in the Hong Kong, and our
previous capitalist system and its way of life will remain unchanged until 2047
when the Sino-British Joint Declaration ceases to be in force.

And track 9 is indeed a life affirming Ballard of hope, not
a drone or angry word in sight.

And if anybody cares, the ProAc's went off, definitely on
the short list.

[/quote]sorry told you i know nowt about politics...say what you see as some mad old comic used to say.... and yes we do care about the speakers, not my cuppa proacs but a mate swears by them.........he has floorstanders for music and proacs for his AV kit.........

 

[Charlie Jefferson]

[quote user="fr0g"]

Please correct your quotes dude. I didnt say that,[/quote]

Sorry Mr.Frog. I don't know how such an audacious slur occured.

[quote user="fr0g"]I can't stand the droning angry old man that is Morrissey. [/quote]

Yet to me he's our foremost Pop Laureate. It's certainly a heady mix of Sino-Anglo-Mozzer-baiting-Tibetan wrangling. Just what the herbal doctor ordered to clear my sinuses and synapses on this heavy-lidded, half-hearted half-term day.