KEF ls50 - Highly Recommended

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MUSICRAFT

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alchemist 1 said:
Are KEF producing a matching stand for the LS50's :quest:

Hi alchemist1

Soundstyle's XS122 speaker stands are also worth bearing in mind. Although discontinued, however i feel XS122's are still the finest speakers stands i've used irrespective of price :) Anyway, worth seeking out.

Btw, :beer:

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft
 

alchemist 1

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fayeanddavid said:
Yes, and as mentioned elsewhere, looking froward to your initial thoughts and then when they are fully run in.

Should be very interesting..................

Well, this goes out to all those who think that store demo rooms sound way better than their own homes. Obviously, this may be the case sometimes, but in this case, yet again, a product stuns me with just how good it is. They've only had about an hour playing time, and its late-ish, so I've not been driving them very loud, just trying a couple of soft bits and bobs out - I can't wait to get these cranked up a bit and shifting some air. For the record (and for those who followed the convo over on the other channel, I've set them up using just the outer bungs (as I did with my old R300's).

The ability of the HF unit to be delicate is pretty amazing. There's the smallest details going on, so delicate that you wouldn't think that the diaphragm could move enough to produce it. Very smooth with it too, no harshness, and no hint of veiling. And these are yet to run in.

Bass is a little harder to comment on as I've not been able to turn them up much, but Portishead's Dummy was surprising. With this type of music there's so much texture in the samples that many speakers tend to smother it. I've heard distortion on Roads that I don't think I've heard before - either that or it brings so much more detail to the fore. Basslines are extremely easy to follow, and once again, string detail stands out on some tracks that you never knew existed.

With Angus & Julia Stone's album Down The Way, the LS50's have the ability to hang their voices right in front of you in a way that defies their price point - I thought the R300's were good at it, but the LS50's do it in a more open way, which makes it all the more convincing.

I'm now listening to Track & Field's album In Search Of, and like Portishead's Dummy, they are surprising me with their layers of instruments and samples, and all the while the speakers aren't attracting any attention to themselves whatsoever. Their ability to throw the sound free of the cabinet and send it towards you is nothing short of stunning. The R300's could do this, but again, because the cabinet of the LS50 isn't adding anything, they're essentially invisible.

You'd expect an album like Ocean Colour Scene's Moseley Shoals to make the speaker draw more attention to itself as it isn't clean electronica, but no, business as usual. Bass guitar can be followed throughout a whole track as it is never obscured, and drum skins are more apparent than usual too. One thing I have found that high quality speakers do way better than others is to reproduce electric guitar distortion more accurately. That might sound stupid, but I find it is one tell tale sign of a loudspeaker if it just sounds like a distorted mess with electric guitars. That makes no sense, but I know what I mean! Maybe those that play guitar will know what I mean.

I'm really looking forward to these settling down and trying some real demanding music on them and seeing how they perform in a real world situation (i.e. not a store). Even out of the box these sound pretty damn good, and the scary thing is, most of the above comparisons have been against the R300's - themselves one of the best sub £1,000 speakers! I'm dying to try a few movies out on them too...

Since the R series emerged, we've felt that they've been KEF's finest range of loudspeakers since the introduction of the current Series 2 Reference range. They could even be described as a gamechanger - not only for KEF, but also for the speaker industry too.

This really is Reference performance at a budget price.

WHF's ''5 stars''. Underpins your mini review. :read:
 

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alchemist 1 said:
WHF's ''5 stars''. Underpins your mini review. :read:

And so it should! I think sometimes, you find that no review can fly in the face of fact. These are just amazing little speakers. I haven't had a chance to read their review yet, but I think I have it in an email - I'll read it later and see what they say :)

I was watching Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy last night, and the music sounded pretty amazing - I think most people would be well chuffed if their hi-Fi system sounded like that. Violins were soaring well into the room, and piano notes were solid, and were also well clear of the speakers - KEF really have done an amazing job on these cabinets.

Vocal quality was equally impressive, as though they were in the room. At one point, a phone call during the film placed a voice about 1 foot forward of the right hand rear speaker - it was so precise in placement. A scene set inside a car in Silent House was also massively impressive in its vocal solidity and openness.

I'll emphasise again that the treble and midrange of these speakers really comes across as Reference quality.
 

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FrankHarveyHiFi said:
alchemist 1 said:
WHF's ''5 stars''. Underpins your mini review. :read:

And so it should! I think sometimes, you find that no review can fly in the face of fact. These are just amazing little speakers. I haven't had a chance to read their review yet, but I think I have it in an email - I'll read it later and see what they say :)

I was watching Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy last night, and the music sounded pretty amazing - I think most people would be well chuffed if their hi-Fi system sounded like that. Violins were soaring well into the room, and piano notes were solid, and were also well clear of the speakers - KEF really have done an amazing job on these cabinets.

Vocal quality was equally impressive, as though they were in the room. At one point, a phone call during the film placed a voice about 1 foot forward of the right hand rear speaker - it was so precise in placement. A scene set inside a car in Silent House was also massively impressive in its vocal solidity and openness.

I'll emphasise again that the treble and midrange of these speakers really comes across as Reference quality.
I've started dribbling with anticipation. :grin:
 

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small speakers for this price? i rate the sound like the QA 2020i only a smidge more detail. or maybe like my ns-333 only with less thin sounding treble...dont find them particularly special these ones..
 

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ear said:
small speakers for this price? i rate the sound like the QA 2020i only a smidge more detail. or maybe like my ns-333 only with less thin sounding treble...dont find them particularly special these ones..

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:
 

MUSICRAFT

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ear said:
small speakers for this price? i rate the sound like the QA 2020i only a smidge more detail. or maybe like my ns-333 only with less thin sounding treble...dont find them particularly special these ones.

Hi ear

I've heard very good things about the performance of Q Acoustics 2020i speakers :) Looking forward to hearing them.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft
 

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ear said:
small speakers for this price? i rate the sound like the QA 2020i only a smidge more detail. or maybe like my ns-333 only with less thin sounding treble...dont find them particularly special these ones..

I suppose KEF could've made bigger ones, but the quality wouldn't have been as good. But then, they weren't meant to be large.

Can I ask what system you heard the LS50's in?

Of course, as with all speakers, there will be some that won't like their sound, and some that will have heard them underperforming due to the system they're being played in. I've already seen one retailer selling them as a package with a Marantz 6004 amp. Nothing against the 6004, but the LS50's don't seem to be the sort of speaker that can sing to the best of its abilities on the end of a budget amplifier.

I'll take a blind test of these against any other small speaker under £1k any day - they're distinctive enough to pick out - partly because of their quality, and also because of what they don't do...

:)
 

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FrankHarveyHiFi said:
We have some 2020i's in store as well as the LS50's, so if anyone wants to pop in for a comparison, feel free :wave:

I owned the 2020i and now own the LS50. Both are amazing speakers for the price imo. The LS50 are in a different class though. ;)
 

MUSICRAFT

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alchemist 1 said:
Oh! Woe is me, no delivery this week. More dribbling. :cry:

Mind you a up to date report on their findings of said speaker would help. ;)

Hi alchemist 1

Chill out :beer: Hopefully it won't be long before you have your new toys :)

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft
 

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alchemist 1 said:
Oh! Woe is me, no delivery this week. More dribbling. :cry:

Mind you a up to date report on their findings of said speaker would help. ;)

They would've been here if it weren't for an error at KEF - anyway, you know the score now :)
 

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FrankHarveyHiFi said:
alchemist 1 said:
Oh! Woe is me, no delivery this week. More dribbling. :cry:

Mind you a up to date report on their findings of said speaker would help. ;)

They would've been here if it weren't for an error at KEF - anyway, you know the score now :)

Oh no! I understand, I mean't a update on how yours were progressing. :)

Erwinc ...... decoded my poor choice of words. :oops:
 

MUSICRAFT

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v1c said:
ear said:
small speakers for this price? i rate the sound like the QA 2020i only a smidge more detail. or maybe like my ns-333 only with less thin sounding treble...dont find them particularly special these ones..

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:

Hi v1c

I suppose in the end we've all got our own preference :)

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft
 

Frank Harvey

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alchemist 1 said:
I mean't a update on how yours were progressing. :)

:)

Still running in, but the star movie for the week has to be Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. I always thought No Country For Old Men had decent audio, but dialogue is nowhere near as well recorded as Tinker Tailor. The music score sounds phenomenal - violins and piano notes soar forward into the room like the speakers don't exist. This may sound familiar to some, but I've never heard it like this before. Each note not only sounded free of the speakers, but have sufficient leading edge weight to them, making them sound solid, almost to the point you could see it. That might not make sense, but I know what I'm trying to describe! I'm looking forward to watching The Social Network now...

As for No Country For Old Men, I tend to use this as demo material, as there's a lot of subtle detail, especially when Anton pays his visits to those he is tracking down. I'm more aware now of other stuff going on - airplanes and traffic outside for example.

I did have a blast with a bit of music last Sunday, and tried a few tracks I tend to use when demoing speakers with very capable bass. Evil Twin lacked the low end that I'm used to (compared to the Blades, of course!) as they don't reach the low earthquake bass part way through the track - that's to be expected though. I tried a track that I haven't tried for ages, but used to sound stunning on my old 4.2's - No Doubt's Hella Good. I used to think that it was only big speakers that would sound good with this track as the bassline is quite meaty, the drums are nice and weighty, and there's a lot of stereo effect to overwhelm the senses. This sounded absolutely amazing - it didn't seem to lose anything at all that I used to hear, other than the bass line not sounding as big as on the 4.2's. The other thing about this track is that when playing at high volumes (because it just makes you want to) the chorus becomes almost unlistenable on speakers that aren't well behaved in the treble - not so on the LS50's. Everything is neat and tidy, well behaved, and there in all its glory :)
 

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Hi v1c

I suppose in the end we've all got our own preference :)

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

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Yeah you are right there Rick i mean my set up is pretty much on a par with yours wouldn't you say :grin:

Yamaha BD-S1900 Blu Ray player

Chord Electronics DSP8000 Audio Video processor

ATC SCM100ASL active Professional monitors (front L & R)

ATC C3CA active centre monitor

ATC SCM50ASL active Professional monitors (rear L & R)

ATC C6 - SCM0.1/15 active sub

yes not alot in it really. ;)

As always Rick it's a pleasure talking to you .... and all joking aside i would really love to hear your set up.
 

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