John Lewis Sony 40W4500/4710

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We ordered the 40W4500 from John Lewis on the strength of What HiFi's reviews/awards and it arrived today, and at first I thought they'd sent the wrong telly, as the packaging and the TV itself is labeled 40W4710. The documentation is for the W4500/4710, and I've set it up and tried out a Blu Ray and it looks great, so I should be happy, but I can't help feeling a little uneasy that this isn't the exact TV that I paid for! 

I see there's been a couple of threads on this already, but was wondering if anyone can provide any further info, as I'm worried I've been ripped off (it wasn't exactly cheap, £1099 including the S350 Blu Ray player)
 

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John Lewis claims the 4710 is the same as the 4500, but we haven't tested the 4710 ourselves so can't confirm that it performs identically to the 4500.
 
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thanks for your reply. I have to say it does look amazing! I think I just panicked a bit when I saw a different model number on it having spent all that money. Hopefully it is exactly the same
 
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I am nervous now as i ordered also with john lewis and it is being delivered tomorrow, i rang john lewis and they said they would investigate the matter, does the tv you got delivered look like the one on there website grey and black trim?
 
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sorry I didn't mean to worry anyone! I've been watching Die Hard 4 on Blu ray and it looks absolutely stunning so I'm happy with this TV whatever number is on it...
 
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Are you not worried that it might not be as good as the W4500 seeing as it says W4710?

Did you check the colour and does it match the one on the website? is it easy to install?
 
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it does physically look the same, and yes in the back of my mind I'm wondering what the reason is for a different model number if it's exactly the same unit, but the picture is fantastic so I'm not gonna stress about it. Super easy to set up too since you ask
 
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On the forums it was mentioned that John Lewis used the model number 4710 so they would not be forced to price match other stores which were selling 4500 s. It would however seem that both models are identical, and JL advertise the set as 4500/4710.
 
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I am also waiting for the 40W4500, but i got mine from Sony, it will be interesting to see what i get.
 
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Thanks for all your replies, its human nature to benervous when you get a different model number,

we will see what happens tomorrow when mine arrives.
 

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Bit strange they're different numbers but still.

However, on the subject of JL, they have been going downhill in service recently in my opinion.

My neighbour informs me she went out to buy a Canon cooker last week. JL Price was apparently £200 (!!!) MORE than a small local shop (!!!) AND JL also wanted to charge £9 to remove the old one.

The local shop apparently offered the same cooker for the £200 less, with the same free extended guarantee AND free removal of old one. My neighbour bought it locally after several trips to both JL and the local shop. She's only ever previously bought big goods from JL.

I know of several people who are now finding JL very expensive.

Also, in the last few months they altered their price matching policy to make it very difficult to get a price match. Basically instead of an instant match as previously, from memory, my understanding is that they now insist on you waiting for them to send someone out physically to check the price at the competing shop. I believe this can take up to 10 days, which not only means a wait for you of nearly 2 weeks to get your product (even assuming JL have it in stock - longer if they don't), but also this means that if in the meantime the other shop puts it prices up or sells out then you've also lost the price match as well as the 2 weeks of waiting time.

I would have always bought from JL, but have joined other people I know locally in walking out without a purchase when JL have insisted on their new price match procedure - I quite recently bought a Canon HV30 HD camcorder from Tesco Direct instead of JL after they inisisted on their new procedure. Complaining to management about their refusal to match without sending someone physically out another day, got me nowhere so I took my business elsewhere.

In fact personally, I wouldn't buy from JL again until this procedure is reversed. In my opinion, they've become too cocky on the back off record profits last year and have possibly increased prices and made matching deliberately harder as a result. I'm not going to be bullied by a retailer into paying high prices when I can shop elsewhere.

Its interesting to note that I saw a report the other day suggesting profits are now down at JL.

Its also interesting to note, that some good independant stores are now offering free 5 year Guarantees on all TV's same as JL.
 
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Quick update,

My KDL40W4500/4710 was delivered this afternoon, it was taken out of the box and said it was a W4710 so i rang Sony straight away and was told that that was an exclusive number for John Lewis and the tv was in fact a W4500 model which makes me feel a lot better.

The picture is fantastic and i am well pleased,looking forward to this weekends live football.
 
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alphonso

Buy the way when you set up your Blu Ray player do you have to get any extra cables or do you just use the one supplied in the box?
 
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Alsone:
I know of several people who are now finding JL very expensive.

LOL! JL have ALWAYS been expensive! The only thing ive ever seen in JL that has been cheaper than elsewhere was my dyson hover but otherwise ive always stayed clear. The only plus side i guess is they normally give a free 5year warrenty so that makes up for the extra cost...
 
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Quick update,

My KDL40W4500/4710 was delivered this afternoon, it was taken out of the box and said it was a W4710 so i rang Sony straight away and was told that that was an exclusive number for John Lewis and the tv was in fact a W4500 model which makes me feel a lot better.

The picture is fantastic and i am well pleased,looking forward to this weekends live football.

Thanks for that info, it's good to know. Glad you're liking the telly. I have to say it's exceeded my expectations, which were already pretty high!
 
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Buy the way when you set up your Blu Ray player do you have to get any extra cables or do you just use the one supplied in the box?

Don't use the cables in the box, you have to get an HDMI cable to get the best picture
 

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LOL! JL have ALWAYS been expensive! The only thing ive ever seen in JL that has been cheaper than elsewhere was my dyson hover but otherwise ive always stayed clear. The only plus side i guess is they normally give a free 5year warrenty so that makes up for the extra cost...

Yeah thats true from my experience but I personally think they're more expensive than ever now. I mean over £200 more than a small shop in the same area!! On an £800 cooker thats 25% difference!

Also, wasn't so bad in the past when you could get a price match easily as you knew that generally JL service was very good.

Unfortunately, the new policy makes a price match so difficult now in my opinion, it simply isn't even worth trying and in my experience the staff are now awkward and shirty about price matching. So much for the service! I prefer to shop elsewhere now.

alphonso:Rathbone:

alphonso

Buy the way when you set up your Blu Ray player do you have to get any extra cables or do you just use the one supplied in the box?

Don't use the cables in the box, you have to get an HDMI cable to get the best picture

Yeah boxed cables are not known for being high quality. They'll do, but as Rathbone says you'll get better performance from a good aftermarket cable. If you have HDMI connections, use HDMI.

It doesn't have to cost a fortune. I saw the Award Winning QED HDMI-P on Amazon.co.uk last night for £21!!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-Performance-Qunex-HDMI-P-1mtr/dp/B000JK8M3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227349267&sr=1-1
 

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