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Isolation platforms - listening impressions
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My expectations based on measurements were that bass would improve. However this was on one of the speakers and not the other. For close to two weeks I have been using Pyle isolation on one speaker and wooden board under the other. According to measurement this should give me best results.
What I did not expect is how isolation will impact on midrange and soundstage. I've noticed that sound is free'er of the speakers. Soundstage depth improved and overall focus also improved. The differences in bass are there but overall improvements elsewhere are were the biggest benefits come from.
I must admit I was happy to call quits on the project. Now I'm going to use the other platforms even though it affects bass in a slightly negative way.
Big thanks Cno for common sense approach.
What I did not expect is how isolation will impact on midrange and soundstage. I've noticed that sound is free'er of the speakers. Soundstage depth improved and overall focus also improved. The differences in bass are there but overall improvements elsewhere are were the biggest benefits come from.
I must admit I was happy to call quits on the project. Now I'm going to use the other platforms even though it affects bass in a slightly negative way.
Big thanks Cno for common sense approach.
Nowhere near the impact of isolation. Unless it was USB cables were taking about.
I'm now messing with Uptone Regen and Audioquest Jitter bug. Does it ever end? Hahaha
I'm now messing with Uptone Regen and Audioquest Jitter bug. Does it ever end? Hahaha
insider9 said:
I was asking, as you said this on another thread:
"Ok for anyone who would like to try Google NYY-J cables. Got mine from TLC. I'd suggest getting 4 core if speakers have LF and HF terminals. Solid core 2.5mm2 works best but be aware these won't bend easily.
I've gone from Chord Odyssey 2 to these."
Sorry though I replied and lost track of that thread.CnoEvil said:
No, honestly couldn't tell them apart in a blind test. Obviously measured acoustic performance too. But that was many amps and speakers ago. Couldn't justify price difference and at that point with diy conversion needed lots of cable.
In my opinion as I see it right now speaker cables and interconnects are one of the least contributing factors in the chains. As long as they are sufficient quality.
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Infiniteloop
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CnoEvil said:
I’m currently using an UpTone Regen with an M2Tech HiFace device. I’m finding improved clarity and focus along with the music sounding more natural.
Newlash, were you afraid that I've lost it and will now just promote all the dubious products ferociously? *biggrin*
I most certainly won't but it won't stop me trying things.
I most certainly won't but it won't stop me trying things.
I've got both Regen and Jitterbug with a Oyaide USB cable. I'll reserve my judgement but early signs are positive.Infiniteloop said:
insider9 said:
Thx for the reply.
I agree that everything else needs sorted before S/Cs and I/Cs.
newlash09
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insider9 said:
To keep track of all the new things you seem to be throwing into the mix every day. Isolation, Linux OS and then you mentioned cables. I was worried you might give all the credit for the sonic improvements just to the cables
*biggrin*CnoEvil said:
I'll happily ask you for advice once I need cables. I don't rule anything out at this point.
Nah, I do test quite a bit. But try to keep to one change at a time. Linux was a happy coincidence and wasn't really done with sound improvements in mind. Also relatively new development. Isolation in place since Friday two weeks ago. After all was measured.newlash09 said:insider9 said:
To keep track of all the new things you seem to be throwing into the mix every day. Isolation, Linux OS and then you mentioned cables. I was worried you might give all the credit for the sonic improvements just to the cables
newlash09
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insider9 said:Nah, I do test quite a bit. But try to keep to one change at a time. Linux was a happy coincidence and wasn't really done with sound improvements in mind. Also relatively new development. Isolation in place since Friday two weeks ago. After all was measured.newlash09 said:insider9 said:
To keep track of all the new things you seem to be throwing into the mix every day. Isolation, Linux OS and then you mentioned cables. I was worried you might give all the credit for the sonic improvements just to the cables
Always enjoy following your experiments. You always back up your listening with measurements, so to me your findings sound more convincing. Less placebo and expectation bias involved.
Yeah some we can't measure, like the windows vs Linux experiment. But not many like that. By any chance do you think cables could skew the frequency balance of the sound to the extent that it could be measurable in your room. If it could be, that will put the cable wars to rest
No I haven't seen this in any comparisons of cables between £1 and £30 per meter. They won't be able to skew it that much unless there's something very wrong. Like comparing 100m of bell wire with thick 2m one. I do believe they can have some impact just prefer to use DSP not "tune" with cables.
newlash09
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insider9 said:
Tuning with dsp instead of cables sounds like a great idea. Why didn't I think of that before
Hahahaha *lol*newlash09 said:insider9 said:
Tuning with dsp instead of cables sounds like a great idea. Why didn't I think of that before
insider9 said:
Good keep that tight grip on reality or you'll never recover.
When even the packaging effects sq you know it's too late
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