Is that the end of blu-ray ?
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Frank Harvey
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Should be "Fewer and fewer DVDs..." just a little thing I haveDavid@FrankHarvey said:
But personally happy if DVDs aren't transferred to Blu-ray if the picture quailty remains at DVD standard (as many are!)
Correct me if I'm wrong but last I heard there was no media or infrastructure in place to distribute 4k. Of course the technology to do so is already here: usb ROM memory sticks would be cheap enough to distribute 4k films effectively, but the pirates would have a field-day.
BenLaw
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MajorFubar said:
You're wrong!
http://www.whathifi.com/news/4k-blu-ray-discs-look-set-to-be-official
The_Lhc
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The_Lhc
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So I wasn't wrong then was I
No surprises the TV's have yet to set the market alight. They did the equivalent of launching a multi-million dollar supercar which only accelerates as quick as a one litre Polo unless you feed it with a type of petrol you can't yet buy.
No surprises the TV's have yet to set the market alight. They did the equivalent of launching a multi-million dollar supercar which only accelerates as quick as a one litre Polo unless you feed it with a type of petrol you can't yet buy.
It's just history repeating. The first HD TVs came to market in late 1990s, long before we had either HD discs or (regular) TV service.....
I would presume true 4K BD players are still some way off and no doubt will command a premium price initially, but surely a true 4K film downscaled to 1080p would look at least as good as current 1080p blu-rays do (of course some blu-ray discs don't always look that good!) when displayed on current display technology.
No doubt the cost of 4K displays will come down in price over time and when it reaches the price point of say a current high-end Samsung/Sony then I'd be seriously tempted.
No doubt the cost of 4K displays will come down in price over time and when it reaches the price point of say a current high-end Samsung/Sony then I'd be seriously tempted.
Need a better solution for 4k than LED / LCD - to get the full attention of die hard plasma owners I feel - that's a stumbling block there to some going over.
On a positive the more 4 K is pushed hopefully it will push more HD content on TV - its still a dire amount of HD stuff available - we are no where near a full HD service from either SKY or Virgin. Thats the criminal part about a new platform coming out - HD is still not fully mainstream / available to all or anywhere near it to my knowledge.
Also if films are shot using the Big Red in 4k then they will definitely make better blu rays so what we are getting now will be of better quality as well - so happy days to that
On a positive the more 4 K is pushed hopefully it will push more HD content on TV - its still a dire amount of HD stuff available - we are no where near a full HD service from either SKY or Virgin. Thats the criminal part about a new platform coming out - HD is still not fully mainstream / available to all or anywhere near it to my knowledge.
Also if films are shot using the Big Red in 4k then they will definitely make better blu rays so what we are getting now will be of better quality as well - so happy days to that
Personally I find it an utterly compelling proposition.
All I need to do is replace my £600 BluRay player, replace my £1,200 amp, replace my £3,500 TV for a 4k set that uses inferior display technology, move house so I can accommodate the 70"+ screen that I'll need to appreciate the difference at normal viewing distance, and then go out and buy all the films once again that I've already brought on BluRay when they all get the "remastered in 4k for ultimate picture quality" treatment (and had previously brought on DVD, and in some cases on VHS before that).
Where do I sign???
On the plus side, at least it means I get to buy the Star Wars trilogy, yet again; I was getting worried about old George's bank balance as he's not had any cash off me for at least 2 years now!
All I need to do is replace my £600 BluRay player, replace my £1,200 amp, replace my £3,500 TV for a 4k set that uses inferior display technology, move house so I can accommodate the 70"+ screen that I'll need to appreciate the difference at normal viewing distance, and then go out and buy all the films once again that I've already brought on BluRay when they all get the "remastered in 4k for ultimate picture quality" treatment (and had previously brought on DVD, and in some cases on VHS before that).
Where do I sign???
On the plus side, at least it means I get to buy the Star Wars trilogy, yet again; I was getting worried about old George's bank balance as he's not had any cash off me for at least 2 years now!
emperor's new clothes
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Need a better solution for 4k than LED / LCD - to get the full attention of die hard plasma owners I feel - that's a stumbling block there to some going over.
+1. Visited JLewis Oxford circus + HA rods and 4k LED offerings including huge samsung and sony 65 still display overblown, un-natural greens and some blues. No match for my 4 year old Kuro in that respect. However, the samsung curved OLED was awesome to my eyes - the future has arrived and its not even 4K as yet.
Need a better solution for 4k than LED / LCD - to get the full attention of die hard plasma owners I feel - that's a stumbling block there to some going over.
+1. Visited JLewis Oxford circus + HA rods and 4k LED offerings including huge samsung and sony 65 still display overblown, un-natural greens and some blues. No match for my 4 year old Kuro in that respect. However, the samsung curved OLED was awesome to my eyes - the future has arrived and its not even 4K as yet.
daveh75
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ellisdj said:
The fact linear broadcast (especially subscription/packaged) is still a thing is criminal, its inconvenient, and an expensive waste of bandwidth that needs to go the way of the dodo.
I couldn't really care about updating my equipment for 4k it the rebuying of movies VHS-DVD-bluray-4k I'm sick of it.
mr malarky said:On the plus side, at least it means I get to buy the Star Wars trilogy, yet again; I was getting worried about old George's bank balance as he's not had any cash off me for at least 2 years now!
You could always grow out of Star Wars. :shifty:
You wouldn't be supporting team Lucas anyway; it's The Walt Disney Company that needs your help!
As for Blu-ray, there's life in the format yet; and if/when there's a viable 4k infrastructure in place, we'll be able to pick up BDs for peanuts.
bigboss
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simonlewis said:
Well, the forum is also about sensible purchases & avoiding unnecessary expenditure.
chebby
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I assume any 4K physical disk technology will be backwards compatible with Blu-ray (just as DVDs can be played on Blu-ray machines) and therefore compatible with DVDs too.
The death of DVD has not happened yet and many new releases still only come out on DVD.
A lot of what I buy is still only made on DVD (especially some TV series). The fact that Blu-ray is a superior format isn't going to stop me buying DVDs (or watching my large collection of old ones).
Now and then I will 'upgrade' existing DVDs wth Blu-ray versions (especially if they are 3 for £20) and - occasionally - the chance comes along to upgrade DVD TV series to Blu-ray (but not very often).
I have a very eclectic mix in my collection (everything from farming in Sussex in the 1950s to the latest film or TV series to come out on Blu-ray - if I like it) and I am not going to throw away much loved DVDs (or Blu-rays) just because a new format has emerged. So long as I can stick them all in the same machine, press play and watch them, then I'm happy.
Ok, the DVDs (even after upscaling) aren't quite as good, but if that's the only format something is available on then fine.
The death of DVD has not happened yet and many new releases still only come out on DVD.
A lot of what I buy is still only made on DVD (especially some TV series). The fact that Blu-ray is a superior format isn't going to stop me buying DVDs (or watching my large collection of old ones).
Now and then I will 'upgrade' existing DVDs wth Blu-ray versions (especially if they are 3 for £20) and - occasionally - the chance comes along to upgrade DVD TV series to Blu-ray (but not very often).
I have a very eclectic mix in my collection (everything from farming in Sussex in the 1950s to the latest film or TV series to come out on Blu-ray - if I like it) and I am not going to throw away much loved DVDs (or Blu-rays) just because a new format has emerged. So long as I can stick them all in the same machine, press play and watch them, then I'm happy.
Ok, the DVDs (even after upscaling) aren't quite as good, but if that's the only format something is available on then fine.
Alantiggger
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Just guessing ... but Most folks in the world today STILL are watching 4.3 tv ?
Lots of peoples who slag-off the likes of HD and 3D do not possess the equipment to do so ?
The likes of brilliant plasma tv and projector are not within the expedature of most never mind the mass majority of buyers ?
4k....... man, it's miles away for most ...nevermind the bits to play on same ?
New advances in tech are JUST that..... MOST will not be viewing for many a year... heck MANY will NOT view 3D for many a year yet. :type:
3D or similar will be Massive in years to come I'd imagine....
oh, and what chebby just said too
Lots of peoples who slag-off the likes of HD and 3D do not possess the equipment to do so ?
The likes of brilliant plasma tv and projector are not within the expedature of most never mind the mass majority of buyers ?
4k....... man, it's miles away for most ...nevermind the bits to play on same ?
New advances in tech are JUST that..... MOST will not be viewing for many a year... heck MANY will NOT view 3D for many a year yet. :type:
3D or similar will be Massive in years to come I'd imagine....
oh, and what chebby just said too
bigboss
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Alantiggger said:
Maybe in the world, but not UK. 59% of the population owned an HD TV in 2009 according to Ofcom report:
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/uk-hdtv-ownership-hd-channel-20101206949.htm
It's going to be much higher now.
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