is cd finished as a main music carrier or player

[idc]

the_lhc:idc:To go right back to the start, CD will in the future no longer be the main music carrier. A combination of streamed and downloaded music will be. That is because new bands with new albums can access pretty much the whole word if they get onto itunes and large chunks of it with Spotify, Grooveshark and Pandora. If they stick to CDs they will have a limited number that they can distribute in a limited fashion.

There is nothing wrong with combining formats and I don't understand why those who stick to one format feel the need to lob grenades at others.

Those with big CD collections and no interest in PCs can be sure that CDs will continue at least as well served as vinyl. It is cassette, mini and lazer disc owners who have little left to serve them.

10/10 idc, I couldn't agree more.

A 10/10 from the_lhc

. I am the man

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[The_Lhc]

idc:the_lhc:idc:To go right back to the start, CD will in the future no longer be the main music carrier. A combination of streamed and downloaded music will be. That is because new bands with new albums can access pretty much the whole word if they get onto itunes and large chunks of it with Spotify, Grooveshark and Pandora. If they stick to CDs they will have a limited number that they can distribute in a limited fashion.

There is nothing wrong with combining formats and I don't understand why those who stick to one format feel the need to lob grenades at others.

Those with big CD collections and no interest in PCs can be sure that CDs will continue at least as well served as vinyl. It is cassette, mini and lazer disc owners who have little left to serve them.

10/10 idc, I couldn't agree more.

A 10/10 from the_lhc

. I am the man

.

Be afraid, be VERY afraid!

To be honest I had thought I'd said as much myself on a number of occasions in this thread, perhaps I waffle too much though and it gets lost in the noise. I bow to your brevity and conciseness (made up word?)...

 

[chebby]

Get a room you two.

 

[The_Lhc]

Jealous!

You can be my b**** tomorrow Chebby...

 

[idc]

I can't waffle, the site keeps crashing on me. If I know it will be a long reply I do it as a word document and then copy and paste.

 

[AL13N]

idc:To go right back to the start, CD will in the future no longer be the main music carrier. A combination of streamed and downloaded music will be.

There is nothing wrong with combining formats and I don't understand why those who stick to one format feel the need to lob grenades at others.

Those with big CD collections and no interest in PCs can be sure that CDs will continue at least as well served as vinyl.
Totally agree.

Linn even states on their website:
"Burning your downloads onto a DVD is a great way of backing-up your Studio Master download purchase and also provides another source for playing back your downloads (DVD-A player)."

And of course they still sell both turntables and vinyl. And hybrid SACD - playable on regular CD players.

Other labels such as Naim are the same (CD, FLAC or Vinyl).

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks Mike! I think high resolution digital is good enough to satisfy most ears. When playing good 24bit/192kHz material, I no longer yearn for a vinyl version. It has the smoothness and air of vinyl and the noise floor of CDs, coupled with what seems to be greater detail.

I want a linn network player.

the_lhc:

Stagea:I wish something like Bluray audio would come out with far superior resolution

It already is, have a look at Andrew's blog about the new CA universal disc player, he mentions Blu-ray audio only discs there.

Thanks M

Oh wow. Thanks for the info. I haven't seen them though. I hope it takes off.

 

[shooter]

Shamelessly ripped.

Is the sound on vinyl records better than on CDs or DVDs?

The answer lies in the difference between analog and digital recordings. A vinyl record is an analog recording, and CDs and DVDs are digital recordings. Original sound is analog by definition. A digital recording takes snapshots of the analog signal at a certain rate (for CDs it is 44,100 times per second) and measures each snapshot with a certain accuracy (for CDs it is 16-bit, which means the value must be one of 65,536 possible values).

This means that, by definition, a digital recording is not capturing the complete sound wave. It is approximating it with a series of steps. Some sounds that have very quick transitions, such as a drum beat or a trumpet's tone, will be distorted because they change too quickly for the sample rate.

In your home stereo the CD or DVD player takes this digital recording and converts it to an analog signal, which is fed to your amplifier. The amplifier then raises the voltage of the signal to a level powerful enough to drive your speaker.

A vinyl record has a groove carved into it that mirrors the original sound's waveform. This means that no information is lost. The output of a record player is analog. It can be fed directly to your amplifier with no conversion.

This means that the waveforms from a vinyl recording can be much more accurate, and that can be heard in the richness of the sound. But there is a downside, any specks of dust or damage to the disc can be heard as noise or static. During quiet spots in songs this noise may be heard over the music. Digital recordings don't degrade over time, and if the digital recording contains silence, then there will be no noise. CD quality audio does not do a very good job of replicating the original signal. The main ways to improve the quality of a digital recording are to increase the sampling rate and to increase the accuracy of the sampling.

 

[shooter]

CD Audio

Sampling Rate 44.1 kHz 192 kHz
Samples per second 44,100 192,000
Sampling Accuracy 16-bit 24-bit
Number of Possible Output Levels 65,536 16,777,216

 

[shooter]

Looking at those figures you cant be more than impressed but the fact is a digital bit recording wont give you what an analog recording will. Seamless music.

 

[Ajani]

Having not owned a CD player in about 3 years, I see Music Servers taking over the market eventually... I suspect Vinyl will stick around as a niche market product indefinitely though...

 

[The_Lhc]

shooter69:CD Audio

Sampling Rate 44.1 kHz 192 kHz

Samples per second 44,100 192,000

Sampling Accuracy 16-bit 24-bit

Number of Possible Output Levels 65,536 16,777,216

Just to clarify, only the first column of numbers refers to CD Audio, the second column is Hi-Res 24-bit audio.

 

[shooter]

It is.