Hi,Apparently they can be measurably and audibly different, though I’ve never needed one to connect a DAC, so haven’t any personal experience.
Here is an informative review. https://www.hifinews.com/content/chord-epic-usb-interconnect-cable
It must be a little frustrating to have your views automatically discounted because you are in the industry - particularly when I see no evidence that you have ever tried to push product here.Peddler? Hardly.
That was not my intention but, you do sell those cables so, you do have an interest in trying to convince people that such cables are worthwhile. Proving they are worthwhile is another matter...you’re making it look like I sell USB cables “from £559”, which is untrue.
Nature of the beast nowadays. Experts are everywhere, and will always know better than people with decades of knowledge and experience. Most of these people don’t use dealers, they buy used off the internet and auction sites - their mind is made up that dealers are just slippery salesmen. Which, to be fair, is mostly true, but not a blanket description that should be applied to all dealers. I don’t push cables on anyone, but if someone wants to talk about cables with me, I’ll talk about cables. I’ve always been a strong believer of getting the basics of the system right first - if that’s wrong, no cables are going to make a worthwhile difference.It must be a little frustrating to have your views automatically discounted because you are in the industry - particularly when I see no evidence that you have ever tried to push product here.
That said, I am interested in how digital cables might sound different from one another. Mrs 12th and I noticed a significant difference when I'd changed an HDMI cable (just in one thing - the crackling fire in the Pale Man scene from Pan's Labyrinth - we both looked at each other and said words to the effect that it sounded different). But every part of my rational brain is telling me that digital cables should either work or not work.
Personally, I don’t care if anyone thinks better quality cables are worthwhile or not. Most AudioQuest models are listed apart from some of the very top stuff. If someone is interested in talking to me about cables and approaches me, I’ll talk about them, but I don’t actively sell cables to anyone. I don’t even keep cables in stock, or have four or five brands of cables to sell, so that alone should tell you I’m in a different boat to other dealers, especially those who will sell anything to anybody online.That was not my intention but, you do sell those cables so, you do have an interest in trying to convince people that such cables are worthwhile. Proving they are worthwhile is another matter...
He stocks them because some people do consider them worthwhile and are quite prepared to pay that price for them.That was not my intention but, you do sell those cables so, you do have an interest in trying to convince people that such cables are worthwhile. Proving they are worthwhile is another matter...
exactly. The signal is sent. The bits either end comunicate that the data sent matches the data received. It is then turned into something to play.I can't help wondering, if a sub 2 metre USB cable can make a real difference to sound quality, how the hell can streamed music ever sound any good, when you may be getting your ones and zeros from a server thousands of miles away?
No offence, but you can apply that to any of our gear, at some point you'll need to use electricity. Yes, got that thanks.They are actually not completely different. You need electricity(analog) to carry the data. Data Analag....and electricity. No matter how you turn it it will effect the quality all the way out to the listener. The Data and sound may not interfere with each other but electricity doesn´t wait for an invitation.
You simply dont try hard enough. ThinkNo offence, but you can apply that to any of our gear, at some point you'll need to use electricity. Yes, got that thanks.
It's the digital realm. and data transfer / data throughput either works or it doesn't. And if it doesn't you won't get behaviours exhibited by an regular RCA cable. Big differences. And a stable electrical supply - which we mostly have in the UK.
Happy to wholeheartedly disagree with the point I think you're trying to raise.
Hi,It's true, you need to have a voltage, across the cable, for data to move. However, this voltage will have zero impact on sound quality. The digital data, ones and zeros, will not be influenced by this voltage. So long as the sender and receiver, have the same data, with sufficient error correction, then whatever this digital data represents, it will be converted into the relevant output, be it picture, or sound. If your HDMI cable can carry the amount of information it needs to, at £10 then a cable at £100 won't carry that information any better. Speaker cables are different, due to many technical values, capacitance, inductance, reactance, resistance, phase distortion etc. Different materials, their purity, metal crystal size and direction, all make a difference. Different frequencies need to be carried over different thicknesses of cable also, to avoid the signal moving to the outside of the cable, a feature known as the 'skin effect'. A cable's ability to reject RFI and mains interference, is also vital. Speaker cables behave like long aerial leads and can pick up anything from radio, to spikes in power supplies and noise from all the appliances nearby, even through walls and from neighbour's lawn mowers etc. A USB or HDMI cable, needs to carry digital information. If it can do this without signal loss, then all the data should get there, intact. Adding gold and fancy stuff to these cables, won't make the cable carry digital data, more accurately.