Frank Harvey
Well-known member
Your intended placement should be fine - just make sure you set them to bipole rather than dipole.
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Thanks for that.
But since it's my first time... Where would I hide the wires from the rear speaker on the wall to the other side of the room where the AVR will be?
Also I never got an answer about TX-NR808 vs Yamaha RX-V1067. To help: I like to hear the words in movies clear and I like detailed sound. And I do not like a too boomy sound. So which one will be better for me?
Thanks
But since it's my first time... Where would I hide the wires from the rear speaker on the wall to the other side of the room where the AVR will be?
Also I never got an answer about TX-NR808 vs Yamaha RX-V1067. To help: I like to hear the words in movies clear and I like detailed sound. And I do not like a too boomy sound. So which one will be better for me?
Thanks
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
Definitely the Onkyo then
Aaah, where to hide cables! Some people bury them in walls, some use trunking. You can do whatever you like in order to hide them!
Aaah, where to hide cables! Some people bury them in walls, some use trunking. You can do whatever you like in order to hide them!
abriffa:
Thanks for that.
But since it's my first time... Where would I hide the wires from the rear speaker on the wall to the other side of the room where the AVR will be?
Also I never got an answer about TX-NR808 vs Yamaha RX-V1067. To help: I like to hear the words in movies clear and I like detailed sound. And I do not like a too boomy sound. So which one will be better for me?
Thanks
Hi there, I would use either trunking to hide the wires or wide masking tape that can be applied over the wire down the corner of the wall, this can then be painted to suit.
Thanks for that.
But since it's my first time... Where would I hide the wires from the rear speaker on the wall to the other side of the room where the AVR will be?
Also I never got an answer about TX-NR808 vs Yamaha RX-V1067. To help: I like to hear the words in movies clear and I like detailed sound. And I do not like a too boomy sound. So which one will be better for me?
Thanks
Hi there, I would use either trunking to hide the wires or wide masking tape that can be applied over the wire down the corner of the wall, this can then be painted to suit.
I don't understand a whole lot... but doesn't the onkyo give more clinical sound? So won't it be more bassy than the Yamaha?
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
'Clinical' tends to be a very neutral sound that is quite sharp and forward in the treble, and lean and tight in the bass. I wouldn't go as far as to say the Onkyo is clinical, but I would say it's more neutral than the Yamaha, which is warmer and smoother. Smoother amplifiers tend to lose leading edge detail compared to more neutral (and I feel, more accurate) amplifiers/receivers.
Now looking at the Yamaha RX-V2067 as well, as I can have it for about the same price (+100) of the Onkyo TX-NR808.
Opinions on these 2?
Thanks
Opinions on these 2?
Thanks
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
Again, the tonal comparisons still apply, but the 708 or 808 seems to be what you're after given your description of your preference.
Can you give me an idea of how they will sound...
For example what exactly is warmer and smoother as opposed to clinical. What would be the difference in the sounds?
For example what exactly is warmer and smoother as opposed to clinical. What would be the difference in the sounds?
MUSICRAFT
Well-known member
abriffa:
Now looking at the Yamaha RX-V2067 as well, as I can have it for about the same price (+100) of the Onkyo TX-NR808.
Opinions on these 2?
Thanks
Hi abriffa
I think you need to take a step back as there are now too many variables. If these components are available at a local dealer(s) then i will strongly suggest that you go back to your original plan and listen to the TX-NR608 with the BX series speakers. Thereafter add the RX-V1067 and take it from there.
This route should help you decide which components are suitable for you and also possibily avoid unnecessary expense.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Now looking at the Yamaha RX-V2067 as well, as I can have it for about the same price (+100) of the Onkyo TX-NR808.
Opinions on these 2?
Thanks
Hi abriffa
I think you need to take a step back as there are now too many variables. If these components are available at a local dealer(s) then i will strongly suggest that you go back to your original plan and listen to the TX-NR608 with the BX series speakers. Thereafter add the RX-V1067 and take it from there.
This route should help you decide which components are suitable for you and also possibily avoid unnecessary expense.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
A warmer sound - imagine listening to some music on a hi-fi system, and you turn the bass control up. The extra bass overshadows midrange and treble detail, softening them.
A neutral sound - bass doesn't rule the sound, it's there, but it's now overpowering. Because of this, more detail can be heard in the bass region, and baselines are tighter and easier to follow. Treble is detailed and airy, but again, doesn't overpower. Midrange is detailed because the bass is behaving itself. For me, neutral is more accurate, but there are many that like a softer sound.
Like I said, clinical sort of takes it one step further than neutral - treble is more overpowering, mid has no life to it, and the bass is very dry and lean, which could be to the point of being non existent.
That's comparing those words you've used. The differences between these receivers isn't as blatant as that, but you get the idea.
A neutral sound - bass doesn't rule the sound, it's there, but it's now overpowering. Because of this, more detail can be heard in the bass region, and baselines are tighter and easier to follow. Treble is detailed and airy, but again, doesn't overpower. Midrange is detailed because the bass is behaving itself. For me, neutral is more accurate, but there are many that like a softer sound.
Like I said, clinical sort of takes it one step further than neutral - treble is more overpowering, mid has no life to it, and the bass is very dry and lean, which could be to the point of being non existent.
That's comparing those words you've used. The differences between these receivers isn't as blatant as that, but you get the idea.
The problem is I cannot demo them.
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
I got another thing to ask:
About the TV: I was thinking of a 46" SAMSUNG LED TV. Is this good? TV will be used for normal TV, sky HD, Movies, PS3 gaming.
I this a good choice?
Thanks
About the TV: I was thinking of a 46" SAMSUNG LED TV. Is this good? TV will be used for normal TV, sky HD, Movies, PS3 gaming.
I this a good choice?
Thanks
MUSICRAFT
Well-known member
abriffa:
The problem is I cannot demo them.
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response.
Fair enough. Ask the dealers if they are willing to loan you the components. If not then i feel the safest bet is the TX-NR608 and BX Series combination or at a push subsititute the TX-NR608 for the RX-V1067.
Fwiw, Monitor Audio themselves were also using the TX-NR608 with the BX Series at the Bristol show last week to great effect
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
The problem is I cannot demo them.
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response.
Fair enough. Ask the dealers if they are willing to loan you the components. If not then i feel the safest bet is the TX-NR608 and BX Series combination or at a push subsititute the TX-NR608 for the RX-V1067.
Fwiw, Monitor Audio themselves were also using the TX-NR608 with the BX Series at the Bristol show last week to great effect
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
MUSICRAFT:abriffa:
The problem is I cannot demo them.
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response.
Fair enough. Ask the dealers if they are willing to loan you the components. If not then i feel the safest bet is the TX-NR608 and BX Series combination or at a push subsititute the TX-NR608 for the RX-V1067.
Fwiw, Monitor Audio themselves were also using the TX-NR608 with the BX Series at the Bristol show last week to great effect
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks for your response, however I decided on the RX2 5.1 AV package as it will also serve me better for the future, as I don't want to upgrade anytime soon. And I just need to know what is the best AVR to drive them according to what other users/people with a bit of experience have heard. I can listen to every monitor audio speaker cause we have a local retailer in Malta, however I cannot demo them on the Yamaha or the Onkyo receivers.
Thanks
The problem is I cannot demo them.
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response.
Fair enough. Ask the dealers if they are willing to loan you the components. If not then i feel the safest bet is the TX-NR608 and BX Series combination or at a push subsititute the TX-NR608 for the RX-V1067.
Fwiw, Monitor Audio themselves were also using the TX-NR608 with the BX Series at the Bristol show last week to great effect
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks for your response, however I decided on the RX2 5.1 AV package as it will also serve me better for the future, as I don't want to upgrade anytime soon. And I just need to know what is the best AVR to drive them according to what other users/people with a bit of experience have heard. I can listen to every monitor audio speaker cause we have a local retailer in Malta, however I cannot demo them on the Yamaha or the Onkyo receivers.
Thanks
MUSICRAFT
Well-known member
abriffa:MUSICRAFT:abriffa:
The problem is I cannot demo them.
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response.
Fair enough. Ask the dealers if they are willing to loan you the components. If not then i feel the safest bet is the TX-NR608 and BX Series combination or at a push subsititute the TX-NR608 for the RX-V1067.
Fwiw, Monitor Audio themselves were also using the TX-NR608 with the BX Series at the Bristol show last week to great effect
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks for your response, however I decided on the RX2 5.1 AV package as it will also serve me better for the future, as I don't want to upgrade anytime soon. And I just need to know what is the best AVR to drive them according to what other users/people with a bit of experience have heard. I can listen to every monitor audio speaker cause we have a local retailer in Malta, however I cannot demo them on the Yamaha or the Onkyo receivers.
Thanks
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response and fair enough.
Onkyo's TX-NR808 and Yamaha's RX-V2067 are both suitable for the Silver RX2 AV12 package. I would personally go for the RX-V2067 and as bigboss said earlier on Yamaha AV amps are known to pair beautifully with Monitor Audio speakers
In my experience this combination generally gives (amongst their other qualities) a sound which is highly detailed, rich with timbre, dynamic, fast (without being in the face) and has an overall 'feel' which can be listened to for hours without fatigue with movie or music soundtracks.
Btw, i've not seen the Samsung tv however i will say the new Panasonic range might be worth waiting for.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
The problem is I cannot demo them.
Local retailer who has the 608 and 808 has only Bose speakers and the retailer who has the RX2 I am meeting to listen to them this week, however they do not have Yamaha or Onkyo AVRs.
So I am going based on the reviews, since I live in Malta and cannot demo anything basically.
That's why I have to ask a lot of questions!
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response.
Fair enough. Ask the dealers if they are willing to loan you the components. If not then i feel the safest bet is the TX-NR608 and BX Series combination or at a push subsititute the TX-NR608 for the RX-V1067.
Fwiw, Monitor Audio themselves were also using the TX-NR608 with the BX Series at the Bristol show last week to great effect
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Thanks for your response, however I decided on the RX2 5.1 AV package as it will also serve me better for the future, as I don't want to upgrade anytime soon. And I just need to know what is the best AVR to drive them according to what other users/people with a bit of experience have heard. I can listen to every monitor audio speaker cause we have a local retailer in Malta, however I cannot demo them on the Yamaha or the Onkyo receivers.
Thanks
Hi abriffa
Thanks for your response and fair enough.
Onkyo's TX-NR808 and Yamaha's RX-V2067 are both suitable for the Silver RX2 AV12 package. I would personally go for the RX-V2067 and as bigboss said earlier on Yamaha AV amps are known to pair beautifully with Monitor Audio speakers
Btw, i've not seen the Samsung tv however i will say the new Panasonic range might be worth waiting for.
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
bigboss
Moderator
abriffa:
About the TV: I was thinking of a 46" SAMSUNG LED TV. Is this good? TV will be used for normal TV, sky HD, Movies, PS3 gaming.
Which model of Samsung is it? Samsung makes some very good TVs in general. If you're using your TV for games, check plasma sets as well.
About the TV: I was thinking of a 46" SAMSUNG LED TV. Is this good? TV will be used for normal TV, sky HD, Movies, PS3 gaming.
Which model of Samsung is it? Samsung makes some very good TVs in general. If you're using your TV for games, check plasma sets as well.
The Samsung TV I am thinking of is the UE46C6510 (possibly the C7000 but don't need 3D tbh)
About plasma... I think I prefer LED cause they consume less power and I'm afraid about the burn in issue in a Plasma.
About plasma... I think I prefer LED cause they consume less power and I'm afraid about the burn in issue in a Plasma.
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
Screen burn isn't really in issue any more, and plasmas have a much more natural picture than other types of screens.
Hi again,
I contacted the Monitor Audio retailer in Malta, and they use Pioneer AVRs with them
So what I am asking now is, will a Pioneer AVR be good with the RX2 package? Also which one should I look at so that I do a demo with it?
Thanks
I contacted the Monitor Audio retailer in Malta, and they use Pioneer AVRs with them
So what I am asking now is, will a Pioneer AVR be good with the RX2 package? Also which one should I look at so that I do a demo with it?
Thanks
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
Any from the LX83 down to the LX53 and VSX2020 (which are the same internally), maybe even the VSX1020 at a push. They'll work fine with Monitor Audio.
Thanks for that,
But what do you think is the best Pioneer for the RX2 5.1 package?
And the pioneer is similar to the onkyo? (since you suggested that for my taste onkyo would be better)
Thanks
But what do you think is the best Pioneer for the RX2 5.1 package?
And the pioneer is similar to the onkyo? (since you suggested that for my taste onkyo would be better)
Thanks
Frank Harvey
Well-known member
So it is good for the RX2 package you say? Also, the sound is it similar to the Onkyo and will go well with the Monitor Audio speakers?
David, is there somewhere we can chat instead of post? Need to ask you some things
Thanks
David, is there somewhere we can chat instead of post? Need to ask you some things
Thanks
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