HDMI 1.1 and 1.3

[admin_exported]

Folks can you enlighten me.

I have just purchased a onkyo 606 which supports HDMI 1.3.

Will I have to replace all my existing HDMI1.1 leads or can I still use them.

Cheers

 

[professorhat]

Depends what you're using it for really. If you're intending to use HDMI 1.3 features (like Lip Synch, Deep Colour or bitstreaming the HD audio formats like Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA from your HD player to amp for decoding) then you will need to replace the HDMI cable that goes between whichever source you want these features to work for and the amp and, in the case of lip synch and deep colour, from the amp to the TV.
HDMI 1.1 cables will still provide the basic picture and sound though if you don't need these features.

 

[Anonymous]

Cheers mate, for the speedy response.

could anyone suggest a good HDMI 1.3 lead for conecting my PS3 and HD DVD player to my reciever ???????????

 

[professorhat]

Oh oh!
Gonna get in here quick and just say I use a Chord 1.3a Silver Plus for my PS3 and found it improved the picture substantially. It is quite pricey though and the QED HDMI-P cable is also a quality cable at a more affordable price (you can find reviews of both on this site - Chord and QED - NB, the price on the QED in this review is for the 7m version, the 1m version is substantially cheaper!).
I'd stress that if you can, get one on a money back guarantee so that you can send it back for a refund if you can't notice any appreciable difference as many people swear blind that a £80 cable can make no improvements over a £5 certified cable. The choice ultimately is yours.

 

[Anonymous]

This is a great flat HDMI cable which I use between my Denon DVD1940 and my Samsung PS42Q97HD Plasma TV

1 x Wireworld Island 5 HDMI to HDMI Cable - 2m (Island 5ý 2m) = £34.81

www.futureshop.co.uk

 

[Anonymous]

as prof said the chord plus, or the qed hdmi-sr and the lead i use, ixos xht658, i tested all 3 of these through my z85 and ps3 and they are all well made, and good sonically aswell as visually.
as with all advice demo 1st

 

[Anonymous]

hi mate also look into the IXOS XHT 458 the RRP is £80 (1m) and has won all the reviews in all the uk mags. i'd say it's well worth the money i use three!

 

[Anonymous]

S100:hi mate also look into the IXOS XHT 458 the RRP is £80 (1m) and has won all the reviews in all the uk mags. i'd say it's well worth the money i use three!

Come on old man...you really don't need to get carried away and spend £80 on an HDMI cable when cables for half that cost will do the job just as well......Perhaps it's the pretty colours that people go for I don't know...but it does amaze me that so many gullible human beings think that by spending more money they are getting something significantly better

The only people who benefit from people like you who are those whose pockets you contiune to line

 

[professorhat]

Knew it couldn't be too much longer till we saw it!!

 

[D.J.KRIME]

Would make a very interesting Test to get say 10 differant HDMI cables ranging from Your cheepo £5 one of Ebay to some "TOP END" £200 one and BLIND TEST them with simply whilst testing them as HDMI A to J and only the Person Who was changing the HDMI cables knowing which one was which and see what results are attained.

 

[Anonymous]

Blind Tests I agree but that would be like calling for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.....the big guns might be afraid of the outcome.....I mean we simply can't have the likes of say a lesser well known or generic £30 cable even coming close to, equalling or even bettering a branded £80 cable

 

[professorhat]

Well, that is a bit of a silly statement when we frequently see budget items outperforming more expensive equipment in both the Hi-Fi and AV world and this is not only accepted, but applauded. For some reason, in the digital cable world though, when a £80 cable outperforms a £30 cable, it clearly must be the "placebo" effect. I still don't understand the thinking behind that other than the misinformation people have about how digital signals are transferred and processed.
Still, as I've always said, audition first and if you can't see a difference, go for the cheaper cable. I just don't think it gives you the right to dismiss people that can see a difference as simple minded idiots.

 

[Anonymous]

Active electronic devices such as PVRs, TVs etc. come with reams of figures and gobbledygook to persuade us to buy them however the world of interconnects is largely silent when it comes to frequency response, capacitance, resistance etc. I smell a rather large and furry rodent.

The consumer needs a blind test and tables showing the measured parameters of what is available. Given half a chance, some people will buy a particular cable because the copper was mined in Western Australia compared to East Africa due to the reduced distance to the Southern magnetic pole.

How about it Editing Team ? Can we have some real science and hard facts please.

 

[Anonymous]

professorhat:Depends what you're using it for really. If you're intending to use HDMI 1.3 features (like Lip Synch, Deep Colour or bitstreaming the HD audio formats like Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD MA from your HD player to amp for decoding) then you will need to replace the HDMI cable that goes between whichever source you want these features to work for and the amp and, in the case of lip synch and deep colour, from the amp to the TV.

HDMI 1.1 cables will still provide the basic picture and sound though if you don't need these features.

Oops! This is somewhat misleading advice TBH!

HDMI 1.1 and 1.3 copper cables share exactly the same internal cabling and so over short distances (say less than 3m) any HDMI cable you are currently using successfully should still work. The main impact of using HDMI 1.3 features is that the bit rate of the data on the cables increases making these signals much less forgiving of bad cables.

A copper cable sold as 1.3 compliant differs only in that it should have been tested to work correctly with those higher bit rate signals.

If you are using active cables (optical or electrically corrected) then you may have a problem but I am guessing that is unlikely!

Neil