mmmmmmyep i'll try the headphone socket as i have a 3 day weekend starting tomorrow ..im presently using the headphone socket with a logitec 2.1 setup ($99) and in a small room it sounds fine so it will be interesting to plug it into hifi system and have a listen..Thanks frog my computer understanding is now starting to increase .and that backup of music onto a seperate hdd is the way to go too..