Dynaudio Emit M10 or Q Acoustics Q3050 floorstanders?

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I'm going to get some speakers and have a budget of around $750 for the speakers and about the same or less for the amp/dac.

I see that the Emit M10 is rated really positive on here and goes for about $7-750 and the Q3050 floorstanding speakers are also the same price.

I'm after what would be considered more detailed with better midrange and treble without sense of scale added to the equation as the M10 are bookshelve speakers vs a floorstanding. I don't mind getting the smaller M10 if it sounds superior but if the Q3050 would be a great experience along with similar sound quality as M10, then that route would be nice as well.

Would anyone recommend a good amp for a great price.

TIA,

Dave

 

[rainsoothe]

Hi. I haven't heard the Dynaudios, but I'm not that keen on the 3050. How big is your room, what kind of music do you like etc.

For what it's worth, I'd rather have superior standmounts then mediocre (not that the Q Acoustics are that) floorstanders. In normal living conditions, with neighbour and space constraints, standmounts are king. Or, maybe, stuff like the new Neat Alpha miniature floorstanders.

 

[Native_bon]

I'm going to get some speakers and have a budget of around $750 for the speakers and about the same or less for the amp/dac.

I see that the Emit M10 is rated really positive on here and goes for about $7-750 and the Q3050 floorstanding speakers are also the same price.

I'm after what would be considered more detailed with better midrange and treble without sense of scale added to the equation as the M10 are bookshelve speakers vs a floorstanding. I don't mind getting the smaller M10 if it sounds superior but if the Q3050 would be a great experience along with similar sound quality as M10, then that route would be nice as well.

Would anyone recommend a good amp for a great price.

TIA,

Dave

If you got a reasonably size room I would go for the Q3050's speakers. They are also got a high sensitivity easy to drive & very musical. I have not listened to the M10's so can not comment on that. You did not give your budget limit for the amp. The Marantz Pm6005 should be a good amp to drive the Q3050's.

 

[anonymous]

David Menorath i prefer the floorstander very good price and you can listen to quality music in low volume special classic, traditional asian music and that kind, there is also another speakers out there, tahat are very good and cheaper, but most are then standmounter still there is a few floorstander cheaper also almost the quality of q3050 i belive and is good to put litle more money on the amp ( in my opiniom speakers nowdays are much better today but amp it need still litle more money nowdays) a amplifier i recomend becuase it is cool is:
Dynavox VR-70E II Phono
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p6xij2k8lo

https://www.amazon.de/Dynavox-VR-70-II-Phono-R%C3%B6hrenvollverst%C3%A4rker-chrom/dp/B0047N09JI

regards

 

[Native_bon]

David Menorath i prefer the floorstander very good price and you can listen to quality music in low volume special classic, traditional asian music and that kind, there is also another speakers out there, tahat are very good and cheaper, but most are then standmounter still there is a few floorstander cheaper also almost the quality of q3050 i belive and is good to put litle more money on the amp ( in my opiniom speakers nowdays are much better today but amp it need still litle more money nowdays) a amplifier i recomend becuase it is cool is:

Dynavox VR-70E II Phono

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p6xij2k8lo

https://www.amazon.de/Dynavox-VR-70-II-Phono-R%C3%B6hrenvollverst%C3%A4rker-chrom/dp/B0047N09JI

regards

I agree. I only gave a low priced budget amp cause price range was not mentioned. Very confident the 3050's can handle amps up to a grand in price range.

 

[anonymous]

i understand any way i had nothing against you or your answer

you sure agreed with me, is dificult to give good advice if there is not much information about the kind of music, the room, and preferences, i mean even when consider all that imagine after you had buy let say 10 to 15 hundred punds you say latter i should had put my money better in a good headphone set *give_rose*

 

[rainsoothe]

for what it's worth, I auditioned the 3050 with Marantz SR5010, and the combo sounded incredibly shrill.

 

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A lot of good points in this post. Amp budget is anything under $1000

Hi. I haven't heard the Dynaudios, but I'm not that keen on the 3050. How big is your room, what kind of music do you like etc.

For what it's worth, I'd rather have superior standmounts then mediocre (not that the Q Acoustics are that) floorstanders. In normal living conditions, with neighbour and space constraints, standmounts are king. Or, maybe, stuff like the new Neat Alpha miniature floorstanders.

I would prefer to have the more superior sounding speaker wether they are standmounts or floorstanders. I'm simply going off of What HiFi's review of the Dynaudio Emit M6 and feel that might be the best solution, even if I may be able to get the 3050 for the same price. This is not to say that the 3050 may be similar in performance, which then I would lean towards that purchase as I could fit those in my room.

A lot of good amp choices here. I was thinking would the Cambridge Audio CXA60 be a good choice?

I'm looking for a nice high end sounding setup so I hope my speaker and amp selection would deliver that.

 

[thewinelake.]

Try Dynaudio Emit M20 - to my mind MUCH better than M10 and worth the extra £100 - but that may have been down to poor setup (I have a separate thread). Also it's a matter of taste on speakers. I found Q 3050's too "rich" and soggy for me (a bit like with wine they are Aussie Shiraz, where bookshelf speakers - eg. Concept 20's - will be more like Burgundy!). But there are so many good speakers around. If you have time and inclination and a good dealer nearby, go and drink their tea and listen to your favourite CD's. Seems that you need to do more narrowing-down before diving into a shortlist.

Where are you based?

BTW, my favourite £500 (RRP) speaker so far has been the B&W S685S2. It does show some colouration in comparison to Dynaudio, but I found it a more enjoyable and involving listen. The other star is Focal Aria 905 (again, a bit over budget). Also, make sure you get a decent discount whatever you buy - at least 10%, preferably 20%.

Oh, one other idea - if you don't mind "small but perfectly formed" sound, there are many B&W CM1's on eBay for around £350 - could be a good option. A lovely speaker IMO.

 

[BigH]

Oh, one other idea - if you don't mind "small but perfectly formed" sound, there are many B&W CM1's on eBay for around £350 - could be a good option. A lovely speaker IMO.

Perfectly formed sound, you must be joking. You ever wondered why there are so many CM1s for sale?

CM1s are hard to drive so you need to be careful with amp. matching, if you can't audition them first with your amp. choice I would avoid.

As he is quoting in $s I suspect he is not in the UK.

 

[thewinelake.]

Ah, well I was listening to them being driven by Naim Unitilite, so that perhaps explains it!

 

[BigH]

Ah, well I was listening to them being driven by Naim Unitilite, so that perhaps explains it!

Actually I did read some users on the Naim site comments about CM1s, their views were very mixed, a few liked them others said they were awful. They are good looking I'll give them that. Some people like them so its best to audition carefully before buying. For me the bass was the problem.

 

[BigH]

Ah, well I was listening to them being driven by Naim Unitilite, so that perhaps explains it!

Actually I did read some users on the Naim site comments about CM1s, their views were very mixed, a few liked them others said they were awful. They are good looking I'll give them that. Some people like them so its best to audition carefully before buying. For me the bass was the problem.

 

[thewinelake.]

Bass was "interesting". It might sound silly to say, but I felt that there was a "hint" of good bass, rather than an actuality of lumpy bass. For those who like real bass (and that was what I meant by "small but..") it's a non-starter.

Maybe Naim owners have higher expectations. Even things like Kef LS50 are controversial (I loved them).

 

[BigH]

Bass was "interesting". It might sound silly to say, but I felt that there was a "hint" of good bass, rather than an actuality of lumpy bass. For those who like real bass (and that was what I meant by "small but..") it's a non-starter.

Maybe Naim owners have higher expectations. Even things like Kef LS50 are controversial (I loved them).

No its not just Naim owners. One speaker designer thought they were the worst speakers he had ever heard. Musicians have said they are not accurate at all. Its a problem with many modern speakers they are trying over emphasing the bass, because there is trend for more bass, does not sound right to me but also on the CM1s its slow and disjointed with the rest of the music. Yes the Kef LS50s are much better but they also need the right amp. and room. You need to hear speakers its no good buying on reviews and people's opinions.

 

[thewinelake.]

Amen to that. I would go further and say you need to hear them in the room you're going to put them in. I've been amazed by how different the same speakers sound in different demo rooms. Also the differences in taste that people have. So much like wine!

 

[lindsayt]

...I'm looking for a nice high end sounding setup so I hope my speaker and amp selection would deliver that.

You are not going to get high end sound by buying budget amps and speakers brand new from a dealer.

By the time you've paid import taxes, sales taxes, importer mark-up, dealer mark-up, transportation costs, assembly costs, that leaves a very small amount for actual component costs.

This will show, especially in the speakers.

The good news is that you can get high end sound for your budget. The less good news is that you will have to either buy 2nd hand or go DIY. If going 2nd hand there are loads of choices. As a rough general guideline, aim for components that were as expensive as possible when new and also as heavy as you can get for your budget. Do some Google homework on anything you fancy.

If you live in the USA, you are in the best country in the world for buying 2nd hand hi-fi.

B&W CM1's are the most soporifically boring speakers I have ever listenened too. If you want Nirvana to send you to sleep, these are the speakers for you.

 

[Andrewjvt]

...I'm looking for a nice high end sounding setup so I hope my speaker and amp selection would deliver that.

You are not going to get high end sound by buying budget amps and speakers brand new from a dealer.

By the time you've paid import taxes, sales taxes, importer mark-up, dealer mark-up, transportation costs, assembly costs, that leaves a very small amount for actual component costs.

This will show, especially in the speakers.

 

The good news is that you can get high end sound for your budget. The less good news is that you will have to either buy 2nd hand or go DIY. If going 2nd hand there are loads of choices. As a rough general guideline, aim for components that were as expensive as possible when new and also as heavy as you can get for your budget. Do some Google homework on anything you fancy.

If you live in the USA, you are in the best country in the world for buying 2nd hand hi-fi.

 

B&W CM1's are the most soporifically boring speakers I have ever listenened too. If you want Nirvana to send you to sleep, these are the speakers for you.

Pretty much what he said yes +1

 

[thewinelake.]

Yes - for all our differences in tastes [although nobody sane would choose CM1s to listen to Nirvana!], I wholeheartedly agree with the advice here (advice I have taken myself - I now have an Audiolab 8000a and ProAc speakers [still trying decide which to keep] for about £500 ). The only problem is how to work out what you want. For that, I think visiting HiFi dealers is the best way, assuming that you're happy to take their time when your strategy is ultimately to buy secondhand. That will enable you to work out if you prefer floorstanders or standmounters for a start.

 

[BigH]

Yes - for all our differences in tastes [although nobody sane would choose CM1s to listen to Nirvana!], I wholeheartedly agree with the advice here (advice I have taken myself - I now have an Audiolab 8000a and ProAc speakers [still trying decide which to keep] for about £500 ). The only problem is how to work out what you want. For that, I think visiting HiFi dealers is the best way, assuming that you're happy to take their time when your strategy is ultimately to buy secondhand. That will enable you to work out if you prefer floorstanders or standmounters for a start.

What are CM1s good for?

 

[thewinelake.]

Something less bass-intensive. I enjoyed a wide range of music on them (but nothing as rowdy as Nirvana), but it is a matter of taste. I can't believe I'm the only person who finds much to admire about them.

 

[rainsoothe]

Something less bass-intensive. I enjoyed a wide range of music on them (but nothing as rowdy as Nirvana), but it is a matter of taste. I can't believe I'm the only person who finds much to admire about them.

You're not, the first CM1 series are very nice little speakers, but they need to be matched propperly - powerful and neutral to open sounding amps. Vladimir (a forum member) used them with Roksan Kandy K2, I had the CM5 with Rotel Ra1520 and also tested them with Naim Supernait 2. There was much sounding right there, but only if you're into warm sound. If you want the "hi-fi" experience (which I'm not a great fan of), they're not for you.

 

[Native_bon]

When you buy Hifi its all about you & what presentation your looking for. I can absolutely guarantee we dn't here all frequencies the same way, some more than others. Most times when I go into a hifi shop & ask to put together a really good system together for me to buy, its always a case of this just sounds to bright for me. Some people like the real thing. Some people like the full dynamic range of a drum kick, some find it overbearing. Some like it dull some like it bright. Some, somewhere in the middle. Take your pick. *preved*

 

[gasolin]

Dynaudio Emit M10 is now playing in my system

They are new and they might sound much better with a better amp then i have, but they are def above boston acoustics,q acoustics, ma bx 2, wharfedale diamond 220 and all of those other reasonable priced speakers

 

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I've been reading reviews of the Nuprime IDA-8 amp/dac and it looks to have really positive reviews. It's in my price range and if I can find something better second hand, I would go that route. I've been looking on audiogon and there is just so much to sift through with prices all over the place.

Should I go on eBay and what should I be searching for?

Speakers seem to be the easiest thing to search for on the second hand market.

Instead of getting the Emit 10/20, what should I look for in that price range for used?

I'm in the U.S and sadly, my City does not really have any stores to demo speakers, but there is one place. Problem is there selection isn't so big.