Hi everyone... any guidance.. I can get the sony kdl32v4000 or the Samsung LE32A457 both with 5yr guarantee for around £350ish. Question is simply, which is the better set?
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decent budget 32 inch set samsung or sony
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Hi there,
As it happens I've been on a hunt for a good 32" set this week.
I've narrowed it down to the Samsung 32" beit the LE32A456 (which I've been told is pretty much the same set)
I found it at £300.55 at Pixmania then do a search for promotional codes you can get it even cheaper. I've just found one which if you enter Pixmas0810 in the box at checkout you'll get another £10 off.
Or..... If you don't want to go internet order Richer Sounds are doing the 457 for £329 or £319 in the VIP club
As it happens I've been on a hunt for a good 32" set this week.
I've narrowed it down to the Samsung 32" beit the LE32A456 (which I've been told is pretty much the same set)
I found it at £300.55 at Pixmania then do a search for promotional codes you can get it even cheaper. I've just found one which if you enter Pixmas0810 in the box at checkout you'll get another £10 off.
Or..... If you don't want to go internet order Richer Sounds are doing the 457 for £329 or £319 in the VIP club
Wot u sayin' J_Dawg! Without a doubt I'd go for the Samsung LE32A457 over the Sony - mainly because the Samsung will accept 1080p content at 24 frames-per-second, unlike the Sony 32v4000 which won't accept 1080p at all, let alone 1080p at 24fps...
In case you didn't know, 1080p/24fps (ie 1080p resolution shown at 24 frames-per-second) is the holy grail of video formats - it's the highest quality you can get right now (for home use), and 24fps is the same frame-rate that films are originally shot in and shown at the cinema. When films are made into DVDs or shown on tv they are sped up by 4 percent and encoded at 25fps so that they are compatible with tvs such as the Sony 32v4000 which cannot accept material at 24fps. Not that it's a particularly mean feat for a tv set to be able to display content at 24fps, it's just how they decided to do things. This means that, probably without you realising it, every film you watched on DVD or VHS (orÿon the tv), it was 4 percentÿfaster with the sound at a 4 percent higher pitch. Anyway, when they brought out Blu-ray they decided to encode films at their original frame-rate, which means you get to watch films as the director intended, ie not in a distorted form...
This is great, but only if your tv can accept and display 24fps content. Because, if your tv doesn't accept 24fps content then you have to set the Blu-ray player to then do the same kind of frame-rate conversion that would of been done in professional DVD and video mastering studios (and with extremely expensive and sophisticatedÿprocessingÿsystems), butÿin real-time and with only the Blu-ray players own limited hardware which was only intendedÿfor home use. This means that if you don't have a 24fps capable tv set then the picture you get could be, in some ways, worse than DVD. Obviously the Blu-ray pictures on a tvÿunableÿto cope with 24fps, (such as the aforementioned Sony 32v4000)ÿwill still be much better than DVD in many respects, ie detail, resolution, line-definition, colour realism, etc., but will suffer from a horrible juddering effect during motion. And for this reason I would not go anywhere near the Sony 32v4000.
The Samsung 32A457 on the other hand will accept 1080p/24fps content with great ease, and not only that but will deliver a wonderfully vivid, detailed and sharp picture. I know this because my brother has this exact tv and it's great! The motion is super smooth and a pleasure to watch, and my brother is extremely happy with the tv (which by the way, was recommended for him to buy by me) And, having alsoÿseen the Sony in action, in my humble opinionÿwould say that the Samsung is the better tv withÿbroadcast pictures aswell, plus with standard-def DVD.
If the Sony was capable ofÿaccepting 1080p/24fps content then the two tvs would be pretty close in terms of performance (although as I said, I reckon the Samsung is still slightly better). You might not know this next little tidbit, butÿSony in fact don't build their own actual lcd panels but buy them in from Samsung, and just put them in some Sony casing and add their own software, whichÿmight explain why they perform so similarly. However, the 1080p/24fps issue is really important, and a deal-breakerÿas far as the Sony model goesÿ- even if you might not be thinking of buying a Blu-ray player at the moment,ÿyou really want to be made fully future-proof so that if you decide to get a Blu-ray player at some point, you will not have any problems with judder which can completely ruin your enjoyment as well as giving you motion-sickness... ÿ seriously!
To finish off my post I should justÿreiterateÿthe fact that I cannot recommend the Samsung enough - it really is a fabulous tv and you will not be dissapointed. I promise! Anyway good luck Dawg, peace out!
In case you didn't know, 1080p/24fps (ie 1080p resolution shown at 24 frames-per-second) is the holy grail of video formats - it's the highest quality you can get right now (for home use), and 24fps is the same frame-rate that films are originally shot in and shown at the cinema. When films are made into DVDs or shown on tv they are sped up by 4 percent and encoded at 25fps so that they are compatible with tvs such as the Sony 32v4000 which cannot accept material at 24fps. Not that it's a particularly mean feat for a tv set to be able to display content at 24fps, it's just how they decided to do things. This means that, probably without you realising it, every film you watched on DVD or VHS (orÿon the tv), it was 4 percentÿfaster with the sound at a 4 percent higher pitch. Anyway, when they brought out Blu-ray they decided to encode films at their original frame-rate, which means you get to watch films as the director intended, ie not in a distorted form...
This is great, but only if your tv can accept and display 24fps content. Because, if your tv doesn't accept 24fps content then you have to set the Blu-ray player to then do the same kind of frame-rate conversion that would of been done in professional DVD and video mastering studios (and with extremely expensive and sophisticatedÿprocessingÿsystems), butÿin real-time and with only the Blu-ray players own limited hardware which was only intendedÿfor home use. This means that if you don't have a 24fps capable tv set then the picture you get could be, in some ways, worse than DVD. Obviously the Blu-ray pictures on a tvÿunableÿto cope with 24fps, (such as the aforementioned Sony 32v4000)ÿwill still be much better than DVD in many respects, ie detail, resolution, line-definition, colour realism, etc., but will suffer from a horrible juddering effect during motion. And for this reason I would not go anywhere near the Sony 32v4000.
The Samsung 32A457 on the other hand will accept 1080p/24fps content with great ease, and not only that but will deliver a wonderfully vivid, detailed and sharp picture. I know this because my brother has this exact tv and it's great! The motion is super smooth and a pleasure to watch, and my brother is extremely happy with the tv (which by the way, was recommended for him to buy by me) And, having alsoÿseen the Sony in action, in my humble opinionÿwould say that the Samsung is the better tv withÿbroadcast pictures aswell, plus with standard-def DVD.
If the Sony was capable ofÿaccepting 1080p/24fps content then the two tvs would be pretty close in terms of performance (although as I said, I reckon the Samsung is still slightly better). You might not know this next little tidbit, butÿSony in fact don't build their own actual lcd panels but buy them in from Samsung, and just put them in some Sony casing and add their own software, whichÿmight explain why they perform so similarly. However, the 1080p/24fps issue is really important, and a deal-breakerÿas far as the Sony model goesÿ- even if you might not be thinking of buying a Blu-ray player at the moment,ÿyou really want to be made fully future-proof so that if you decide to get a Blu-ray player at some point, you will not have any problems with judder which can completely ruin your enjoyment as well as giving you motion-sickness... ÿ seriously!
To finish off my post I should justÿreiterateÿthe fact that I cannot recommend the Samsung enough - it really is a fabulous tv and you will not be dissapointed. I promise! Anyway good luck Dawg, peace out!
Thanks so much rude boy. A great explaination. I did find out about the sony's lack of 24fps compaibility after I posted my message but was still worried about how good a set the Samsung was. You've cleared that right up. The only problem was John Lewis were out of stock so I'm now waiting on my delivery.
Thanks so much again. Have a gangster xmas!
Thanks so much again. Have a gangster xmas!
got the samsung for £297 from john lewis, with 5 years piece of mind and free delivery to boot 
) (Surprisingly at 4pm boxing day it was £349 and at 8pm was £297... never been so happy for my internet connection to fail for a couple of hours.... saved me 52 notes. Thanks again for your help dudes.
) (Surprisingly at 4pm boxing day it was £349 and at 8pm was £297... never been so happy for my internet connection to fail for a couple of hours.... saved me 52 notes. Thanks again for your help dudes.Hmmm, you can get the Sony KDL32V4000 for £299 at richer sounds, it says in the review here that it accepts 1080p and 24fps, it also gets a 5 star rating...
http://whathifi.com/Review/Sony-KDL-32V4000/Specs/
I'm sure the Samsung is great too but I cant see it being any better than the sony...Not that I'm an expert or anything !
Btw Argos have the cheek to sell the 32V4000 at £349 and say thats it at half price the liars !!
http://whathifi.com/Review/Sony-KDL-32V4000/Specs/
I'm sure the Samsung is great too but I cant see it being any better than the sony...Not that I'm an expert or anything !
Btw Argos have the cheek to sell the 32V4000 at £349 and say thats it at half price the liars !!
Your URL definately shows that the sony accepts 1080p/24fps... however Clare mentions on this thread (http://whathifi.com/forums/p/166797/166854.aspx#166854) that the sony does not accept 1080p/24fps signal... and the Richer sounds website also seems to agree.
Experts??... care to comment? I have to admit it was this issue that swung my decision. I'd probably have gone sony if it could take 1080p/24fps.
In any case... I'd have to have paid extra at richer for the 5 year guarantee.
Experts??... care to comment? I have to admit it was this issue that swung my decision. I'd probably have gone sony if it could take 1080p/24fps.
In any case... I'd have to have paid extra at richer for the 5 year guarantee.
It would be nice to get confirmation on this...although I trust the WHF reviews the reliablity of their spec sheets seems in doubt, I've found this to be the case in the magazine i.e. dots missing (to signify a feature) in the abbreviated review section...which is rather surprising not to mention misleading !
I don't think they are misleading.. intentionally or otherwise.... a little harsh.. I've always found the mag, the experts on this forum and the other user very helpful and would always seek their input. Sure it's just a small oversight.
I'm sure its not intentional either I just like boxes to be ticked if an item has that feature and to trust that its correct.
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