Creek Evo 50a

Gonepostal

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Good evening…..just a quick one..I’ve recently bought a Creek Evo 50cd player to match my Evo amp, want to know if it’s ok to stack the amp on top of the Cd player.

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nopiano

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That is definitely the correct way round, with the amp on top. However, having not used these the caution is - as with any similar pairing - to be sure the amp isn’t picking up any noise from the CD player.

Firstly, with the CD player off. You have a phono stage listed, so select that option, and a slightly higher volume that you’d usually use, but without a record actually playing. Can you hear any background noise?

Now, lower the volume, turn on the CD player and listen again at the same high volume, without an actual record playing, still selecting the phono stage not the CD input. Is the noise any worse?

If it is worse, then better to move them apart; if not, you’re good to go.

I hope that’s clear enough - the aim is to use the amp to detect any induced noise from the internals of the CD player. Lastly, I don’t suppose the handbook mentions placement?
 

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That is definitely the correct way round, with the amp on top. However, having not used these the caution is - as with any similar pairing - to be sure the amp isn’t picking up any noise from the CD player.

Firstly, with the CD player off. You have a phono stage listed, so select that option, and a slightly higher volume that you’d usually use, but without a record actually playing. Can you hear any background noise?

Now, lower the volume, turn on the CD player and listen again at the same high volume, without an actual record playing, still selecting the phono stage not the CD input. Is the noise any worse?

If it is worse, then better to move them apart; if not, you’re good to go.

I hope that’s clear enough - the aim is to use the amp to detect any induced noise from the internals of the CD player. Lastly, I don’t suppose the handbook mentions placement?
I’m out at the moment but will test out what you suggest tomorrow…

Would probably help to read the instructions, I’ll try and dig them out.
 

Gonepostal

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That is definitely the correct way round, with the amp on top. However, having not used these the caution is - as with any similar pairing - to be sure the amp isn’t picking up any noise from the CD player.

Firstly, with the CD player off. You have a phono stage listed, so select that option, and a slightly higher volume that you’d usually use, but without a record actually playing. Can you hear any background noise?

Now, lower the volume, turn on the CD player and listen again at the same high volume, without an actual record playing, still selecting the phono stage not the CD input. Is the noise any worse?

If it is worse, then better to move them apart; if not, you’re good to go.

I hope that’s clear enough - the aim is to use the amp to detect any induced noise from the internals of the CD player. Lastly, I don’t suppose the handbook mentions placement?
The answer to those questions is no.

I normally listen with the volume on 40 for CDs and streaming and about 35 for records. I had to turn the amp up to approx 20 to hear anything and it didn’t change with the CD player turned on, so I guess I’m good to go.

Thanks for your help

Regards
Adam
 

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The amp on top of the cd player is the correct way. The amp gets very hot, better the hot air escapes without hinderance.
I would suggest for very little costs, get a solid oak butchers chopping board, place this between cd and amp.
The block can be rested on absorption pads (x4), this will nullify most of the vibrations from the cd player.

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nopiano

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The amp on top of the cd player is the correct way. The amp gets very hot, better the hot air escapes without hinderance.
I would suggest for very little costs, get a solid oak butchers chopping board, place this between cd and amp.
The block can be rested on absorption pads (x4), this will nullify most of the vibrations from the cd player.

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That looks bigger than the electronics themselves! 😮
 

Gonepostal

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The amp on top of the cd player is the correct way. The amp gets very hot, better the hot air escapes without hinderance.
I would suggest for very little costs, get a solid oak butchers chopping board, place this between cd and amp.
The block can be rested on absorption pads (x4), this will nullify most of the vibrations from the cd player.

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I wasn’t really worried about vibrations having an impact on the sound, I was concerned that the heat from the amp would damage the CD player.
 

Gray

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If you're going to stack then you've done it the right way round.

Personally, I have and will never have any two components close enough to touch each other.
I know people will say that the height of feet is enough separation, but I will always use cabinets / shelves to maintain greater distance.....but that's just me (and probably a minority of others).
 

Al ears

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If you're going to stack then you've done it the right way round.

Personally, I have and will never have any two components close enough to touch each other.
I know people will say that the height of feet is enough separation, but I will always use cabinets / shelves to maintain greater distance.....but that's just me (and probably a minority of others).
No, I too would suggest feet alone do not give enough separation and a weighty amplifier on top of a flimsy CD player is not recommended. A heavy amp can impinge on the drawer mechanism of some CD players.
Simple shelf arrangements are cheap to come by.
 

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So giving this some more thought……the amp weighs 7.5kg and the cd player 5.5kg

If I buy some isolation feet to give some more space between them, would I get away with putting the CD player on top of the amp..
 

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I wasn’t really worried about vibrations having an impact on the sound, I was concerned that the heat from the amp would damage the CD player.
Both is true, I originally stacked my CD on top of my amp. Then I came across a printer trolley rack and this did the trick for me.
 

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So giving this some more thought……the amp weighs 7.5kg and the cd player 5.5kg

If I buy some isolation feet to give some more space between them, would I get away with putting the CD player on top of the amp..
It seems that for some unknown reason, and against all advice, you want the CDP on top. All people are advising is the correct way they should be stacked. However, nothing is written in stone so do what you like... it's your kit.
 

Gonepostal

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It seems that for some unknown reason, and against all advice, you want the CDP on top. All people are advising is the correct way they should be stacked. However, nothing is written in stone so do what you like... it's your kit.
You misunderstand, I want the amp on top. I’m concerned about the weight damaging the cd player.

I understand that the amp generates heat, hence the cd shouldn’t go above it…my thinking was by placing some extra feet between the units and therefore creating some more space would it then be better to have the lighter unit (the CDp) on top.

It’s been mentioned that I should add some isolation feet between the units, now I would like to know if this would give a satisfactory distribution of weight to alleviate my fears re the weight of the amp…
 

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It’s been mentioned that I should add some isolation feet between the units.
I think this was only in the case of using a chopping board as a shelf.

If you did add isolation feet where would you place them? In the same location as the current feet (to simply increase the height between the components) would make no difference to the weight distribution. If you add them at other places to try and distribute the weight you would need to ensure they were the same height as the feet.

Whilst I agree a shelf would be the way to go ideally, how solid is the CD player? I'd be surprised if it was not ok to support the amps weight.
I imagine you have had it stacked as per your picture for a few days now. Does the CD player show any denting? If not, you're probably ok.
 

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I think this was only in the case of using a chopping board as a shelf.

If you did add isolation feet where would you place them? In the same location as the current feet (to simply increase the height between the components) would make no difference to the weight distribution. If you add them at other places to try and distribute the weight you would need to ensure they were the same height as the feet.

Whilst I agree a shelf would be the way to go ideally, how solid is the CD player? I'd be surprised if it was not ok to support the amps weight.
I imagine you have had it stacked as per your picture for a few days now. Does the CD player show any denting? If not, you're probably ok.
No sign of any damage.
 
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