Hi, I've been interested in this cable for some time. The spec is very impressive! It's had superlative reviews, including the review from WHF. Does anyone have experience of this cable?
Gazzip said:Hi there,
Funnily enough I have a 1 metre long one of these about to go up for sale. If your system is overly bright then you may want to look elsewhere. If not then this cable really does bring the mids and highs out.
It did to my ears in my system anyway.
TrevC said:Gazzip said:Hi there,
Funnily enough I have a 1 metre long one of these about to go up for sale. If your system is overly bright then you may want to look elsewhere. If not then this cable really does bring the mids and highs out.
It did to my ears in my system anyway.
Something isn't overly bright here.
Gazzip said:Hi there,
Funnily enough I have a 1 metre long one of these about to go up for sale. If your system is overly bright then you may want to look elsewhere. If not then this cable really does bring the mids and highs out.
It did to my ears in my system anyway.
Audioholic2013 said:Gazzip said:Hi there,
Funnily enough I have a 1 metre long one of these about to go up for sale. If your system is overly bright then you may want to look elsewhere. If not then this cable really does bring the mids and highs out.
It did to my ears in my system anyway.
Thanks for the reply. Does this cable also sound musically involving? Does it convey more emotion in the music?
Gazzip said:Difficult to say as those are personal responses. It is extremely revealing and was not very laid back in my system is all I can really add. When I bought it I had both the coaxial and the AES cables on home review and I prefered the coaxial which at half the price made the choice for me.
The great thing about Clearer Audio cables is that you can send it back for a refund if you don't like them. Give Darren there a call and be able to help you.
Gazzip said:TrevC said:Gazzip said:Hi there,
Funnily enough I have a 1 metre long one of these about to go up for sale. If your system is overly bright then you may want to look elsewhere. If not then this cable really does bring the mids and highs out.
It did to my ears in my system anyway.
Something isn't overly bright here.
The OP is asking for advice from somebody who has experience with this cable. You do not have said experience so why not just stay away from this thread.
At the end of the day I have my belief system, shared with others, and you have yours, also shared with others. Why don't we all just agree to disagree and move on.
You can then spend more of your time congratulating yourself on the savings you have made over those who buy expensive cables. Perhaps you could put it towards your next electricity meter top up or possibly heat the whole house next winter? In the meantime I can spend more of my time throwing away on complete frivolity the obscene amount of disposable wealth I have.
Whatdayasay? Deal?
radiorog said:Gazzip said:TrevC said:Gazzip said:Hi there,
Funnily enough I have a 1 metre long one of these about to go up for sale. If your system is overly bright then you may want to look elsewhere. If not then this cable really does bring the mids and highs out.
It did to my ears in my system anyway.
Something isn't overly bright here.
The OP is asking for advice from somebody who has experience with this cable. You do not have said experience so why not just stay away from this thread.
At the end of the day I have my belief system, shared with others, and you have yours, also shared with others. Why don't we all just agree to disagree and move on.
You can then spend more of your time congratulating yourself on the savings you have made over those who buy expensive cables. Perhaps you could put it towards your next electricity meter top up or possibly heat the whole house next winter? In the meantime I can spend more of my time throwing away on complete frivolity the obscene amount of disposable wealth I have.
Whatdayasay? Deal?
Well said that man.
When I first encountered Trev's views on cables, and his insistence on bombarding every thread, I genuinely believed he was a troll with absolutely no interest in HiFi, just someone who liked ruining other peoples enjoyment of discussing a hobby. I do believe now that he is genuine in his beliefs, but I think he oversteps the mark on etiquette by constantly jumping on every cable thread with personal attacks. I think if I was a moderator I would have had words a long time ago. I don't think it is wrong of trev to mention in every cable thread his beliefs that cables make no difference, but here he has shown that it only takes him two posts to start hurling abuse at members. Again, if I was a moderator I would be having words with him about this. It is not acceptable and I'm sure will be having a big impact on non regular forum readers in wanting to join the forum. They must be looking at these threads and thinking...jees, what a bunch of wallys.
Audioholic2013 said:Why don't you stop trying to hijack my thread with your nonsense? It is clearly evident to me that cables can make an enormous difference to sound quailty. If you don't believe so, fine, that's your prerogative.
fr0g said:Audioholic2013 said:Why don't you stop trying to hijack my thread with your nonsense? It is clearly evident to me that cables can make an enormous difference to sound quailty. If you don't believe so, fine, that's your prerogative.
Ok, I am a firm believer that cables make no difference, given that your reference point is one that has the suitable electrical properties.
However, I was like yourself. I changed a few times, heard subtle differences, that as you say gave more emotion to the music.
But eventually I decided to do a proper blind test and got someone to help me.
Of all the cables I tested (from around £1 a metre for generic, fairly thick multistrand OFC cable, to one that cost around £15-£20 a metre with fancy weaved sleeve and pro looking terminations.
When I didn't know which cable was being used, I could not tell the difference...That was my epiphany and "doh!" moment. I now use whichever is the easiest to hide. And am a lot happier for it.
Until you test it for yourself you will never know.
radiorog said:I tried to put it politely earlier trev, but using this language shows the real lack of intelligence. Your opinions, like the cable believers opinions, are just that, merely opinions, until you can prove the cable manufactures wrong in their claims, and then you will have the joy of taking them all to court with no chance of losing. Until then....you need to rein it in.
TrevC said:radiorog said:I tried to put it politely earlier trev, but using this language shows the real lack of intelligence. Your opinions, like the cable believers opinions, are just that, merely opinions, until you can prove the cable manufactures wrong in their claims, and then you will have the joy of taking them all to court with no chance of losing. Until then....you need to rein it in.
Not quite. It isn't just my opinion. It isn't merely subjective. Anyone that knows about anything about electronics can see right through all the implausible and impossible claims of these companies, but unfortunately the ASA is toothless and clueless. These companies can make any number of ridiculous claims and they get away with it. An example:
'The fact is though, that every element within a power cable will have some influence on the performance of the equipment it’s used with. Back in 2005 when we produced our first power cable we learned that every aspect of the termination mattered. The way the internal conductors were routed, the type and the direction of the fuse and strangest of all, the degree of torque applied to the screw that secures the cover of the plug to the main body.'
Utter tosh.
radiorog said:TrevC said:radiorog said:I tried to put it politely earlier trev, but using this language shows the real lack of intelligence. Your opinions, like the cable believers opinions, are just that, merely opinions, until you can prove the cable manufactures wrong in their claims, and then you will have the joy of taking them all to court with no chance of losing. Until then....you need to rein it in.
Not quite. It isn't just my opinion. It isn't merely subjective. Anyone that knows about anything about electronics can see right through all the implausible and impossible claims of these companies, but unfortunately the ASA is toothless and clueless. These companies can make any number of ridiculous claims and they get away with it. An example:
'The fact is though, that every element within a power cable will have some influence on the performance of the equipment it’s used with. Back in 2005 when we produced our first power cable we learned that every aspect of the termination mattered. The way the internal conductors were routed, the type and the direction of the fuse and strangest of all, the degree of torque applied to the screw that secures the cover of the plug to the main body.'
Utter tosh.
Haha! OK, I see how that looks as total peter, but to claim it as undeniably false, as a matter of fact, you have to provide the evidence to prove it as wrong. Until then, it is just your opinion, and you cannot claim it as otherwise. When a new member comes looking for advice, facts should be presented as facts, and opinions as opinions, it is inaccurate to say something is a fact without the actual evidence, and I think it is this that is winding most people up.
TrevC said:radiorog said:TrevC said:radiorog said:I tried to put it politely earlier trev, but using this language shows the real lack of intelligence. Your opinions, like the cable believers opinions, are just that, merely opinions, until you can prove the cable manufactures wrong in their claims, and then you will have the joy of taking them all to court with no chance of losing. Until then....you need to rein it in.
Not quite. It isn't just my opinion. It isn't merely subjective. Anyone that knows about anything about electronics can see right through all the implausible and impossible claims of these companies, but unfortunately the ASA is toothless and clueless. These companies can make any number of ridiculous claims and they get away with it. An example:
'The fact is though, that every element within a power cable will have some influence on the performance of the equipment it’s used with. Back in 2005 when we produced our first power cable we learned that every aspect of the termination mattered. The way the internal conductors were routed, the type and the direction of the fuse and strangest of all, the degree of torque applied to the screw that secures the cover of the plug to the main body.'
Utter tosh.
Haha! OK, I see how that looks as total peter, but to claim it as undeniably false, as a matter of fact, you have to provide the evidence to prove it as wrong. Until then, it is just your opinion, and you cannot claim it as otherwise. When a new member comes looking for advice, facts should be presented as facts, and opinions as opinions, it is inaccurate to say something is a fact without the actual evidence, and I think it is this that is winding most people up.
There are people that deny the fact and theory of evolution in favour of a variety of imaginary being. This discussion is starting to look very similar.
Of course it's a fact that the direction of a fuse doesn't affect a mains lead. How can it?!!!!! The mains lead can't affect anything at all unless it's faulty in some way. Fact!
abacus said:Do a quick search on the web and you will find plenty of scientific tests that prove the point that once all outside cues are removed, listeners cannot hear any difference. (They are scientifically proven fact, not opinion)
If you have worked in electrical/electronics you are also familiar how a cable works, and once again very few of the claims of cable manufactures hold water.
You will not find the specialists cables mentioned used in any professional Film or Music Production Studio, and if they don't see them as making an improvement, then neither will they in Hi Fi equipment. (Which is usually of much lesser quality than pro equipment)
As always, try before you buy, as while cables don't make a difference, if you think they do, then you may feel happier which will make music listening more pleasurable. (Peoples feeling for things cannot be measured as yet)
Providing they have been made aware of the facts, (And others opinions) then the final decision is with the user, if their happy, then thats all that's required.
Bill
TrevC said:There are people that deny the fact and theory of evolution in favour of a variety of imaginary being. This discussion is starting to look very similar.
Of course it's a fact that the direction of a fuse doesn't affect a mains lead. How can it?!!!!! The mains lead can't affect anything at all unless it's faulty in some way. Fact!