Hang on guys, you`re losing me again. As Eddie Pound states - lossless is lossless, is`nt it? This is not a rhetorical question, it`s a genuine question. I don`t know anything about anything, but this is how I see it from what I`ve read so far (which is not much): I put a cd into the disc drive of my laptop or pc, choose to rip losslessly, and that`s what happens - it takes all the 1s and 0s from the cd and stores them as 1s and 0s and my computer`s hard drive. Is this difference in the quality of software that people speak about something to do with the way the information is stored, or read...or what? Again, when it comes to actually listening to the music that is stored as 1s and 0s on your computer, it`s all about the DAC, amp and speakers/headphones - these are what determine the quality of sound, yes? no?