John Duncan
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Is OLED burn-in a problem? We want your input on one of TV’s hottest topics!
JohnDuncan:How much are Firestone products (like the Fubar and Spitfire) where you are? I have a Fubar IV which is very good and has the headphone output you want, and I think the Spitfire outgunned the Beresgord and DACMagic in a group test recently. The DACMagic is a wonderful thing, but I know it's very expensive in Europe...
I checked the prices and they are:
Fubar IV 199Euro
Fubar IV+ 350Euro
Spitfire 255Euro
Out of the lot only the Fubar 4+ has the USB input and upsampling to 192kHz like Dacmagic and Caiman have. Would I be able to hear the difference 96/192kHz? Which one of Dacmagic/Caiman has a warmer, more laid back sound? Thanks to CA650A I already have quite prominent treble and thanks to B&W685 I have a huge bass, I don't want the new d/a converter adding to either.
I checked the prices and they are:
Fubar IV 199Euro
Fubar IV+ 350Euro
Spitfire 255Euro
Out of the lot only the Fubar 4+ has the USB input and upsampling to 192kHz like Dacmagic and Caiman have. Would I be able to hear the difference 96/192kHz? Which one of Dacmagic/Caiman has a warmer, more laid back sound? Thanks to CA650A I already have quite prominent treble and thanks to B&W685 I have a huge bass, I don't want the new d/a converter adding to either.
I own both and I would say the Caiman gets my vote straight out of the box. Its more of a preference thing though.
The Caiman is a little warmer IMO and a bit more organic. The DAC Magic is a bit cleaner sounding but occasionally a little bright for my taste. Considering the price differences I would recommend the Caiman or try the Firestone.
To confuse matters further I use the DAC magic primarily now, but I have had the unit modded quite significantly and now it easily topps and source I've used before. But Im their stock sates my moneys on the Caiman.
Hope that helps a little.
The Caiman is a little warmer IMO and a bit more organic. The DAC Magic is a bit cleaner sounding but occasionally a little bright for my taste. Considering the price differences I would recommend the Caiman or try the Firestone.
To confuse matters further I use the DAC magic primarily now, but I have had the unit modded quite significantly and now it easily topps and source I've used before. But Im their stock sates my moneys on the Caiman.
Hope that helps a little.
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chebby:
DACs were a new thing to me and the 'tidal wave' of DacMagic mania even convinced me to expect great and wonderful things compared to the Firestone Audio Fubar II USB DAC I had then. (A rather nice OPA2107AP modd'ed one with 'Supplier' dedicated power supply.)
Thats the same one as me 😉
DACs were a new thing to me and the 'tidal wave' of DacMagic mania even convinced me to expect great and wonderful things compared to the Firestone Audio Fubar II USB DAC I had then. (A rather nice OPA2107AP modd'ed one with 'Supplier' dedicated power supply.)
Thats the same one as me 😉
Brisk:I own both and I would say the Caiman gets my vote straight out of the box. Its more of a preference thing though.
The Caiman is a little warmer IMO and a bit more organic. The DAC Magic is a bit cleaner sounding but occasionally a little bright for my taste. Considering the price differences I would recommend the Caiman or try the Firestone.
To confuse matters further I use the DAC magic primarily now, but I have had the unit modded quite significantly and now it easily topps and source I've used before. But Im their stock sates my moneys on the Caiman.
Hope that helps a little.
So in the simple language (if I am reading your post correctly) if I don't want anything more bright in my system, I should go for the Caiman. Or for that matter, for Fubar 4. My question also was, as Fubar 4 doesn't have the oversampling capability - does oversampling to 192kHz make audible difference compared to 96kHz?
The Caiman is a little warmer IMO and a bit more organic. The DAC Magic is a bit cleaner sounding but occasionally a little bright for my taste. Considering the price differences I would recommend the Caiman or try the Firestone.
To confuse matters further I use the DAC magic primarily now, but I have had the unit modded quite significantly and now it easily topps and source I've used before. But Im their stock sates my moneys on the Caiman.
Hope that helps a little.
So in the simple language (if I am reading your post correctly) if I don't want anything more bright in my system, I should go for the Caiman. Or for that matter, for Fubar 4. My question also was, as Fubar 4 doesn't have the oversampling capability - does oversampling to 192kHz make audible difference compared to 96kHz?
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