As long as your current cables are of sufficient gauge and well terminated you'd be wasting your money. Just my opinion.
i´m not sure now but i have the mission argonaut MKII 200watts at 4ohms that were the 780 model, and other are the Mission 761 at 4ohms that are not big but release a very good sound with any amplifier ,recentelly i discovered that this model was developed by Philips in Belgium, there are many variations from the 761 but all with a not so good sound at 8ohms , but i didn´t refer to the B&W 603 S2 which sound good with the right amplifier , a friend of mine as the so badly talked about ,when released Pioneer A-676 (91) , i have a later model and totally diferent inside for the better A-717MKII that was ofered by a friend from the nethrlands that came to live near my hometown, it sure is good as a integrated amplifier, i had at the time bought a Sony ES TA-F570ES ,that surprised me for it´s clean and very good phono stage for the time being, but only sold in the U.K and Portugal with the same specifications in all other european countries they are far from mine, but i sold it after 5 years of using it ,i had better , i think Mission as very good speakers but i heard some who are not that good
the arcam 22 for these speakers is not the best ,this if played loud sound very good , the amplifier might not be the best for this model.
In real world listening, the A39 is hard to beat at used prices.I read that the A39 was not quite as superb. The test was on WhatHiFi "Arcam’s A39 is a powerful, authoritative stereo amplifier, but it needs to pay a little more attention to timing and subtle detail to be the full package"
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Arcam’s A39 is a powerful, authoritative stereo amplifier, but it needs to pay a little more attention to timing and subtle detail to be the full packagewww.whathifi.com
i think you couldn´t be more right ,that´s why some friends of mine have more recent(2000´s) systems but without listening they see what , what hi-fi says it´s best than the sound coming from any source it´s like... not good, one bought cambridge audio speakers with a arcam alpha simple integrated amplifier using a cd player that even i can´t recall the brand but it was very good when described, i can´t remenber what example i could give to express how it sounded to me,
Yes because everyone hears something different.
You can listen to all the opinions in the world, but but they don't have your ears (or sonic preferences) and won't have heard what they are recommending in your room. People often forget how much of an Impact the room has on sound, and that preferences are always personal.
Good advice. He could listen to all the options in the world, none are a substitute for actually listening to music.
To give a direction or experience.
Not many people can afford the Michi.I fully understand what you mean. I have tried many things through the years. Moving the biwiring cables from bass to mid/treble on my speakers, even crossed them so plus is going to bass and minus to mid/treble. Also switching biwiring brackets for cables. Changing spikes to comcrete tiles. Tilting them. Moving them away from walls etc etc. But I've come to the comclusion that more needs to be done. New equipment.
But I can't just start from A and try it all out. So that's where you guys come in
I haven't thought of Rotel for 20 years. I can get an Rotel A14 amp for 525 pound. Or a set of Rotel RSP-1066/RB-1572 for 450 pound. I think I plan to keep my B&Ws and go with a new amp to see where it brings me.
The question is, should i t be Rotel, Arcam or ...
Rotel A14 for 525,- https://www.whathifi.com/rotel/a14/review
Arcam FMJ A39 for 490,-
Arcam FMJ A32 for 575,-
Can't afford the Rotel Michi amps.
Sounds like you have explored setup and positioning. Looking back, you started the process looking at updating your speakers. Now you are leaning toward a change of amp. You already have a powerful amp, and seem to be looking at others along the same lines. Have you looked at anything with a bit more poise, control and detail? something like a Naim Nait 5si or Rega Elex-R or even an old Audiolab 8000A from the 90s. No idea what the first two are selling for these days but know someone who picked up an immaculate 8000A recently for just over £200.I fully understand what you mean. I have tried many things through the years. Moving the biwiring cables from bass to mid/treble on my speakers, even crossed them so plus is going to bass and minus to mid/treble. Also switching biwiring brackets for cables. Changing spikes to comcrete tiles. Tilting them. Moving them away from walls etc etc. But I've come to the comclusion that more needs to be done. New equipment.
But I can't just start from A and try it all out. So that's where you guys come in
I haven't thought of Rotel for 20 years. I can get an Rotel A14 amp for 525 pound. Or a set of Rotel RSP-1066/RB-1572 for 450 pound. I think I plan to keep my B&Ws and go with a new amp to see where it brings me.
The question is, should i t be Rotel, Arcam or ...
Rotel A14 for 525,- https://www.whathifi.com/rotel/a14/review
Arcam FMJ A39 for 490,-
Arcam FMJ A32 for 575,-
Can't afford the Rotel Michi amps.
the problem here is the amplifier not having good tone controls or loudness for hearing music at low levels ,one buys a cheap 80´s or 90´s pioneer or even better a cheap receiver or amplifier from the 70´s and this B&W will sing perfect ,
I noticed the personal components before the coments, i tried to do it myself but or i´m not that good in site organisation or i´ve missed something
Those graphs look pretty good. No audible peaks.The mentioned ma speakers can have extreme peaks in the highs
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Monitor Audio Silver 500 7G loudspeaker Measurements
Sidebar 3: Measurements I measured the Monitor Audio Silver 500 7G's farfield behavior with DRA Labs' MLSSA system, an Earthworks microphone preamplifier, and a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone. I used an Earthworks QTC-40 mike, with its small ¼"-diameter capsule, to measure the nearfield...www.stereophile.com
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in reality i never noticed the excess of high frequencies but enough sensitivety to fire them up and listen a more detailed sound , not saying there arent good B&W speakers just prefer the monitor audio being more compatible with several amplifiers i own ,even from the 70´s or early 60´s vales or tube amplifiers from dynaco, this particular model from B&W were bought by some friends of mine and they sounded also very good , but i found it strange because if the high´s are still higher than usual even putting the treble knob to the left end of the scale seems more of a problem related with the amplifier than the speakers, i inn early 90´s bought a ES sereies power and pre and even in direct they ,monitor audio spekaers were playing perfect the sound but only from a 74 pioneer turntable that is not like that years catalog but bigger and better built with original cartridge the PC-30 ,before they used to be sold with a PC-11 in 72 ,mine was a late 74 and the at the time available sony turntables were worst sounding than the 74 pioneer also with it´s original cartridge, and both brand speakers sounded good but better in detail the monitor audio ,and i may say that i never heard before no one critising, the monitor audio speakers ,the B&W were even cheaper with a higher quality, i ´ve seen them today for sale above the price asked when new in late 80´s, the first set i bought was because the specifications were very good and price wise they were cheaper than tannoy´s, KEF´s and Celestion before joining this brands and sent it´s production to China who made them very strange compared to older models, the "concerto" model was available in the two brands, now wharfedale did the same let´s see if the brand still releases good speakers, the Linton are very good , i´ve seen comparisons to other brands made basically on their frequency response, and giving better quality to spekers with more mid frquency´s who are the easier to be listened, both ends of the spectrum are much more dificult to achieve in that wharfedale are better than the equivalent klipsch but the best to me are the KLH model 5 in this release of new old models
those are very good sounding and i heard them with a 91 A-676 pioneer reference integrated amplifier ,critisised a lot for having decreased the building quality of the previous equivalent models but in sound is much better than a arcam alpha cheap amplifier but by far
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