B&W 685 S2 in combination with Marantz M-cr610

dieterdr

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I have the Marantz m-cr610, now I'm looking for the right set of speakers. I'm thinking on B&W 685 S2. Maybe in the future with a sub.

Good choice or better suggestion/option?

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On the contrary, my local dealer suggested the CR610 and 685 S2 make a great pairing. And he was being honest, just as he suggested the NR1604 amp may not push speakers enough in stereo - this dealer pushes Marantz products, and praised my Arcam Solo Mini.

Also, my Solo Mini drove the 685 S1s just fine. The paper specs may contradict it, but B&W suggest all their latest 600 series speakers are more sensitive than the previous series.
 
manicm said:
On the contrary, my local dealer suggested the CR610 and 685 S2 make a great pairing. And he was being honest, just as he suggested the NR1604 amp may not push speakers enough in stereo - this dealer pushes Marantz products, and praised my Arcam Solo Mini.

Also, my Solo Mini drove the 685 S1s just fine. The paper specs may contradict it, but B&W suggest all their latest 600 series speakers are more sensitive than the previous series.

That's the problem with forums dieterdr there will always be conflicting opinions.

I guesss your only choice is to try to get youe CR610 to a B&W dealers and have a listen yourself.

However my statement regards more efficient speakers remains true. :)

Whici is maybe why manicm uses MA RX1's :grin:
 

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Al ears said:
manicm said:
On the contrary, my local dealer suggested the CR610 and 685 S2 make a great pairing. And he was being honest, just as he suggested the NR1604 amp may not push speakers enough in stereo - this dealer pushes Marantz products, and praised my Arcam Solo Mini.

Also, my Solo Mini drove the 685 S1s just fine. The paper specs may contradict it, but B&W suggest all their latest 600 series speakers are more sensitive than the previous series.

That's the problem with forums dieterdr there will always be conflicting opinions.

I guesss your only choice is to try to get youe CR610 to a B&W dealers and have a listen yourself.

However my statement regards more efficient speakers remains true. :)

Whici is maybe why manicm uses MA RX1's :grin:

Are you being argumentative for the sake of it?? Did you read my post? I had the 685 S1s originally with my Solo Mini (88db, 8ohms, 3.8 ohms minimum - S2s are 87db, 8 ohms, 4 ohms minimum so are actually a bit easier to drive). I only sold them because I moved and acquired a CA Minx 2.1 speaker system - my Solo Mini has an Sub input.

I miss the 685s terribly - they were great speakers. So as far as they go I speak from experience and you speak from....paper specs.

With the exception of the smaller 686s, the previous and current 600 series were always relatively efficient speakers.
 

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Hellow,

thx for the reactions. Tomorrow I'll go to a local store where I can listen to the B&W 685's. Today I heared the 684 on a 610 mcr and the sound was great for my opinion. The man in the store said that I don't need a subwoofer... but in the future I'll use it as a 2.1 set for my tv. But the mcr610 don't split the bass to the sub I think...
 

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dieterdr said:
Hellow,

thx for the reactions. Tomorrow I'll go to a local store where I can listen to the B&W 685's. Today I heared the 684 on a 610 mcr and the sound was great for my opinion. The man in the store said that I don't need a subwoofer... but in the future I'll use it as a 2.1 set for my tv. But the mcr610 don't split the bass to the sub I think...

Really?I don´t think so and can´t imagine that sounds good ... but as always if you are happy...
 
manicm said:
Al ears said:
manicm said:
On the contrary, my local dealer suggested the CR610 and 685 S2 make a great pairing. And he was being honest, just as he suggested the NR1604 amp may not push speakers enough in stereo - this dealer pushes Marantz products, and praised my Arcam Solo Mini.

Also, my Solo Mini drove the 685 S1s just fine. The paper specs may contradict it, but B&W suggest all their latest 600 series speakers are more sensitive than the previous series.

That's the problem with forums dieterdr there will always be conflicting opinions.

I guesss your only choice is to try to get youe CR610 to a B&W dealers and have a listen yourself.

However my statement regards more efficient speakers remains true. :)

Whici is maybe why manicm uses MA RX1's :grin:

Are you being argumentative for the sake of it?? Did you read my post? I had the 685 S1s originally with my Solo Mini (88db, 8ohms, 3.8 ohms minimum - S2s are 87db, 8 ohms, 4 ohms minimum so are actually a bit easier to drive). I only sold them because I moved and acquired a CA Minx 2.1 speaker system - my Solo Mini has an Sub input.

I miss the 685s terribly - they were great speakers. So as far as they go I speak from experience and you speak from....paper specs.

With the exception of the smaller 686s, the previous and current 600 series were always relatively efficient speakers.

I am not normally considered argumentative, and of course I read your post. You might have noticed that I did not quote any specs it is you that did this.

And I am considerably experienced with B&W speakers and, like you have owned the 685's in the past along with quite a few others.

I do not believe in paper specs as you put it and was simply informing the OP that there were other and quite posssibly better choices when in comes to matching speakers with his CR610.

As far as I was aware that was the whole point of this forum, to pass on suggestions from past experience, as you have attempted to do.
 

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I'm not a specialist :) Tomorrow I'll hear the 685's en then I'll tell you my opinion :) Do you have any suggestion for other speakers?
 
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I'm not a specialist :) Tomorrow I'll hear the 685's en then I'll tell you my opinion :) Do you have any suggestion for other speakers?

Perhaps I might suggest that after you have auditioned the 685's tomorrow, if you do not like anything about them, you come back and let us know what it was you felt could be bettered and with that in mind other speakers could be suggested.

It might also be of use to know what other makes. you could get to audition in your area.

I'm sure you will like the 685's presentation, might I add that if you do get them make sure you have some good stands to mount them on.
 

manicm

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Al ears said:
manicm said:
Al ears said:
manicm said:
On the contrary, my local dealer suggested the CR610 and 685 S2 make a great pairing. And he was being honest, just as he suggested the NR1604 amp may not push speakers enough in stereo - this dealer pushes Marantz products, and praised my Arcam Solo Mini.

Also, my Solo Mini drove the 685 S1s just fine. The paper specs may contradict it, but B&W suggest all their latest 600 series speakers are more sensitive than the previous series.

That's the problem with forums dieterdr there will always be conflicting opinions.

I guesss your only choice is to try to get youe CR610 to a B&W dealers and have a listen yourself.

However my statement regards more efficient speakers remains true. :)

Whici is maybe why manicm uses MA RX1's :grin:

Are you being argumentative for the sake of it?? Did you read my post? I had the 685 S1s originally with my Solo Mini (88db, 8ohms, 3.8 ohms minimum - S2s are 87db, 8 ohms, 4 ohms minimum so are actually a bit easier to drive). I only sold them because I moved and acquired a CA Minx 2.1 speaker system - my Solo Mini has an Sub input.

I miss the 685s terribly - they were great speakers. So as far as they go I speak from experience and you speak from....paper specs.

With the exception of the smaller 686s, the previous and current 600 series were always relatively efficient speakers.

I am not normally considered argumentative, and of course I read your post. You might have noticed that I did not quote any specs it is you that did this.

And I am considerably experienced with B&W speakers and, like you have owned the 685's in the past along with quite a few others.

I do not believe in paper specs as you put it and was simply informing the OP that there were other and quite posssibly better choices when in comes to matching speakers with his CR610.

As far as I was aware that was the whole point of this forum, to pass on suggestions from past experience, as you have attempted to do.

No problems.
 

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Ok I think everybody will have big eyes when I tell you what I ordered this afternoon!

I ordered the 684 S2 with a sub... the Rel T7!

I've heard them this afternoon and they sound great for me. The 685's where good but the 684 better. Maybe a little to big for the MCR-610 but in the futire I'll buy a bigger receiver so I'll be prepaired :) But the 684 sound fabolous on the MCR-610 in combination with the sub. The sub of Rel was much better than the sub from B&W.

At this moment I'm a happy man, now I have to wait 10 days before I have my speakers :)

http://www.bowers-wilkins.eu/Speakers/Home_Audio/600_Series/684.html

http://rel.net/products/serie-t/t-7/
 

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Hey Dieter,

congratulations on your surprising choice. Will you let us know how you like your setup after you have it up an running for a while?

Kind regards,

Peter
 

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I'll let you know guys! I bought it in Ghent. The website is not good but the service excellent! I've heard different kinds of setups... The 684's sounds softer/relaxed then the 685's.
 

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