Son_of_SJ said:
mr malarky said:
z058261 said:
Market share of Tv is not getting bigger,loses are happening and therefore the rival formats cannot exist comfortably because of tight margins.The pie just doesn't get bigger and so the eventuality will be one format will not survive.....So how can plasma survive in the context of overall TV shrinking shipment sizes, it is all economics.
Pioneer put all their eggs in the plasma bracket, and lost money. Panasonic have backed plasma heavily, only belatedly getting into LED, and have lost money. Sony and Sharp both ditched plasma and went exclusively down the LED route, and both are losing money on TV manufacturing.
The only TV manufacturers who seem to be making money are LG and Samsung, both of whom decided to continue investing in both technologies , so if there's an economic lesson to be learned here its that there is a distinct market for each technology and investing in both can bring crucial economies of scale for manufacturers struggling with low margins.
As the owner of four plasmas, but also as one who has often recommeneded the outgoing Samsung ES8000 LED series, that is very well said, Mr Malarky!
The PC industry, is also stalling in sales having seen continous eye poping growth increases.The problem is not just a TV one.
But for that PC industry we have seen very rapid innovation in CPU and graphics, and we don't need to wait and pay for a 4k TV to upscale and see 2650 x1600 res' at 60fps for gaming .It is a reality now and I tell you on gaming on that resolution I do not want to know about any 1080p TV. It is a paltry of a resolution.
I have the largest Mac Cinema Display, at the price of a cheap panasonic 50 inch Plasma set. It is glorious in detail as you woud expect. If you have seen or own one of these, you can see that 4k TV is not all that ridiculous. The PC monitor and flatscreen TV are really joined at the hip on a parallel journey in development.
For now I rather have that Mac display resolution and ultra low dot pitch display than a 50 inch TV 1080p set for only games but not for Blur ray use. Now only with Ps4 upscaling and on 4k TV will it turn the PC over. 55inch of HR' is not to be scoffed at for games. Size matters.
Top end PC/Mac monitors can do the billion colour diaplay thing but we are still waiting for OLED to do that for us at ridiculous prices.As for Sony'sTriluminmous technology, in Tiawan a company call Chi Mei has been doing their own 'triluminous panels' - wide colour gamut 130% of the old NTSC standard before Sony and really is based the same tech and benefits. Sony does not have a patent on the 'triluminous thing' Chi Mei do not sell their TVs here.Again they can display greater range of colours than most lcd based sets providing you have the right source.
In retropect, we need to transcend this Led/Plasma merit issue, as for now both are stuck in 'purgatory', neither in low tech hell or high tech heaven...OLED will be that very distant messianic TV god.
The TV industry need to run quicker. Take the Samsung Galaxy 4 phone, it uses FULL 1080p super Amoled and very low dot pitch than any led TV outhere(446ppi) beyong retinal display - it is classed as an OLED family screen technology and already in our pocket and affordable.That black and contrast level on the phone is technically in OLED rather than LED territory. We just need it bigger. That 5 inch phone cost £500, now 50 inch Tv with the same screen technology about 5 thousand pounds?
Consumer will spent if the product is right. 3D TV was not what we ask for hence its demise.People are bored with big TV given what is has to offer.
I still accept we stil need a big TV for Bluray viewing but that is not a big enough excuse to draw the crowds in.... hence the fanancial loses as been said before.
I am therefore for 4k TV and I think it has to happen for the industry to wave its flag.I can't watch my movie on 5 inch smart phone even if it has an Oled screen
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