Amp for Tannoy Revolution Signature

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Can anyone recommend an AV Amp for the Tannoy Revolution Signature 5.1 package.

Here are the speakers specs:

Front speaker sensitivity (db/w/m) 87
Centre speaker sensitivity (db/w/m) 87
Rear speaker sensitivity (db/w/m) 87
Front speaker impedance (ohms) 8
Centre speaker impedance (ohms) 8
Rear speaker impedance (ohms) 8
Front speaker power handling (watts) 125
Centre speaker power handling (watts) 125
Rear speaker power handling (watts) 100
Subwoofer power (watts) 500
Subwoofer driver (cm) 30

Subwoofer is powered by mains.

Budget around £600

 

[Anonymous]

I heard the onyko 805 running these and it was great, so i can imagine the 905 would kick off even better. Not sure if you can get them anymore though.

 

[Anonymous]

Don't haven't be fortunate enough to have listened to these speakers yet but from what I understand they need a reasonably powerful amp for them to perform at their best.

The suggested 805 has been replaced by the TX-SR806 which you can be found on special at about £595. The 906 is way out your budget though (£1400), but if you can extend your budget the Onkoy TX-SR876 is about £795 on special might be a better option, both of these are immensely powerful amps.

The Yahama863SE might be better musically but I don't think they have the power to drive these speakers properly.

I know quiet a few of the stores use these speakers as demo speakers in their stores so you may even be able to audition these speakers with various amps, try contacting the stores in you area to find out (they will be hoping that you buy the speakers from them as they aren't cheap)

Some of the other forum members may be able to provide you with other options within your budget.

 

[Anonymous]

Took the words out of my mouth SouthFly.

Was just about to ask whether the Onkyo TX-SR806 would be good enough to power these?

Whats the difference between the TXSR806 and TX-SR876?

 

[Anonymous]

Other than the difference in wattage (806 is claimed at 180W and the 876 claimed at 200W), I think allot of the differences is hardware and the likes, like the 806 has two 32bit processing chips and the 876 has three for example and the video upscaling chips are different.

Take a look at the Onkyo site and you can look at the specs on the Onkyo website: http://www.eu.onkyo.com/indices/index_com_en_2008_5917373.html

I've been stuck out in Africa on business the last few months so I haven't been able to listen to any of the new units that have come out of late.

 

[Anonymous]

I have the new revolution DC4 speakers in a 7.1 setup running from an Onkyo 906. It sounds excellent. I'd recommend something with a fair amount of power like the 906 or 876. For your budget perhaps look out for a discounted 875 if they are still available?

 

[Anonymous]

I think you're going struggle to find a new 875 for any cheaper than the discount price that I've mentioned for the 876 (RRP is £1000), though there are refurbished ones of the 875 available on Ebay at about £600.

 

[kinda]

I've got Tannoy speakers, not these specific ones, but with the dual concentric drivers.

I run them with a Marantz amp, and I've also heard them with a Denon amp. Both sound very good.

Just wanted to give a couple of options, as I'm sure there are amps other than Onkyo that can be paired with these speakers, especially if you are after some musicality.

 

[Gerrardasnails]

"The Yahama863SE might be better musically but I don't think they have the power to drive these speakers properly.".

The Yamaha will be able to drive them fine. Check out also the Sony STR-DA3400es and the Pioneers in that price range.

 

[Anonymous]

Is the £200 odd price between the TXSR806 and TX-SR876 really worth it?

I am going from a Sony HTSF1000 all in one to Tannoy Revolution Signature 5.1 and a decent amp so I think whatever amp I get I'm going to hear a difference dont you think?

The Tannoy Revolution Signature 5.1 is around the £2,200 mark and my amp budget is around £600.

Obvisoulsy, my first worry about am amp is whether it has sufficent power to run the speakers. I think we can say the Yamaha is out of the running in terms of power.

Any recommendations for this budget?

 

[Gerrardasnails]

JamesU2002:
Is the £200 odd price between the TXSR806 and TX-SR876 really worth it?

I am going from a Sony HTSF1000 all in one to Tannoy Revolution Signature 5.1 and a decent amp so I think whatever amp I get I'm going to hear a difference dont you think?

The Tannoy Revolution Signature 5.1 is around the £2,200 mark and my amp budget is around £600.

Obvisoulsy, my first worry about am amp is whether it has sufficent power to run the speakers. I think we can say the Yamaha is out of the running in terms of power.

Any recommendations for this budget?

You will be astonished at the difference. Please rethink though on the Yamaha. I don't know what it's rated at, I'm guessing 100wpc and you are thinking that's not enough - hogwash. My receiver is 100wpc and I have the MA RS6 package and it's more than enough. I've turned it up to -8db and the sound is ridiculous - but it could go a lot higher. It's been said on here before that wpc spec is not worth the paper it's written on. For instance, my old receiver was 100wpc and was no where near as powerful. An idea would be to check out what this mag suggested to match up with the Yamaha when it won the award and got a rave review.

 

[Gerrardasnails]

Gerrardasnails:JamesU2002:
Is the £200 odd price between the TXSR806 and TX-SR876 really worth it?

I am going from a Sony HTSF1000 all in one to Tannoy Revolution Signature 5.1 and a decent amp so I think whatever amp I get I'm going to hear a difference dont you think?

The Tannoy Revolution Signature 5.1 is around the £2,200 mark and my amp budget is around £600.

Obvisoulsy, my first worry about am amp is whether it has sufficent power to run the speakers. I think we can say the Yamaha is out of the running in terms of power.

Any recommendations for this budget?

You will be astonished at the difference. Please rethink though on the Yamaha. I don't know what it's rated at, I'm guessing 100wpc and you are thinking that's not enough - hogwash. My receiver is 100wpc and I have the MA RS6 package and it's more than enough. I've turned it up to -8db and the sound is ridiculous - but it could go a lot higher. It's been said on here before that wpc spec is not worth the paper it's written on. For instance, my old receiver was 100wpc and was no where near as powerful. An idea would be to check out what this mag suggested to match up with the Yamaha when it won the award and got a rave review.

I just checked out the review of the Tannoy package and guess what they suggested to add to it....

http://whathifi.com/Review/Tannoy-Revolution-Signature/

 

[Anonymous]

They suggest the Yamaha DSP-AX863SE!

Dam I'm confused, about power ratings. The Amp specs suggest it wouldn't be able to give sufficient power to the speakers, but the magazine and you guys suggest otherwise.

Can the experts such as Clare recommend anything?

 

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JamesU2002:
They suggest the Yamaha DSP-AX863SE!

Dam I'm confused, about power ratings. The Amp specs suggest it wouldn't be able to give sufficient power to the speakers, but the magazine and you guys suggest otherwise.

Can the experts such as Clare recommend anything?

You can get 40 wpc amps that drive speakers that can output 200w. As I said before, you are never going to get 100 watts per speaker, even if your speakers can output 150w. If wpc mattered, only those ugly Onkyos and the Pioneers could be considered for a lot of speaker packages.

 

[Anonymous]

Have you considered the new model revolutions instead of the signatures? They have been out for a few months but most shops have not started stocking them yet. They are based on the revolution signatures but are about half the price because they have been made in China and do not have the curved shape etc. The specs seem to be identical and even a Tannoy expert I spoke to felt there was not too great a difference in the sound quality between them. It seems Tannoy felt the signatures were priced too highly and adding a lower cost, but comparable model to the line would generate greater sales. In my opinion I think you might be spending too little on the receiver compared to the relative cost of the speakers. It's worth finding the right balance. Each to his own though.

 

[Anonymous]

You can get a 905 for 800 quid still.

The tannoys are amazing for home cinema, but not so good for stereo (have demoed a set)

 

[Anonymous]

Right for my budget, I think its between Onkyo TX-SR875 and YAMAHA DSPAX863SE.

Which would you choose?

Unless you think I'm making a huge mistake?

 

[Gerrardasnails]

JamesU2002:
Right for my budget, I think its between Onkyo TX-SR875 and YAMAHA DSPAX863SE.

Which would you choose?

Unless you think I'm making a huge mistake?

The Yamaha all day long. It's the latest group winner - beating the 876 which is this years updated 875. It's not ugly, it's smaller and the 875 has been dogged with overheating and other issues mentioned on here. Similar to the Sony LCD's which I own a perfectly normal, working one, people have complained of problems and others have stated none. The 875 has been raved over but there have also been people that have had three of them and they have all gone wrong.

 

[kinda]

I think the Yamaha could be very good, but I wouldn't just dive into it to be honest. Go and have a listen to some amps.

When I started out I thought the Onkyo 605 would defnitely be all I needed as my surround amplification was built into my TV, so any amp had to be better; plus the 605 was being raved about as a beater of anything up to £700.

The 605 was a decent amp, but poor next to a discounted Marantz that had been discounted from £700+ to near the 605's price. would the 605 have been good enough? Probably, but I'd have missed out on a lot of enjoyment of films and music.

The 875 was raved about as a world-beater, and the 876 is a progression, yet it's suddenly being beaten by an amp that can be had for £600. If you have a few demos you might find the thing that will be knocking the Yamaha off it's perch, or may just find that the sound of the Yamaha doesn't actually suite you.

Power I wouldn't worry about too much. Unless you have a massive room, then a 100W amp should be plenty. You don't have to give the speakers the full power they can handle. I have a reasonably sized room and 100W speakers, and if I turned them up fully the sound would be deafening. Have a look at what your current setup is rated at, and see how much more power you need; I reckon you'll find 100W plenty.

And on power, the general concensus seems to be that the Onkyo amps tend to have over-stated figures in terms of their power.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the advice Kinda and Gerrard.

I want really a list of three AV Amps I can take to a shop and demo.

However, I just don't know which three would be best?

So hard to decide.

 

[Gerrardasnails]

JamesU2002:
Thanks for the advice Kinda and Gerrard.

I want really a list of three AV Amps I can take to a shop and demo.

However, I just don't know which three would be best?

So hard to decide.

I would go for the Yamaha, Sony STR-DA3400es and the latest Pioneer model of similar price.