Bear in mind we used to think the earth was flat
You might have done but nobody else did, you can go back to the dawn of civilization on almost every continent and find contemporary scientists showing that the earth is a sphere using a variety of different methods. An ancient greek even made measurements to determine the circumference of the Earth and wasn't that far out.
I do wish people would stop using this a comparison, the only ignorance it demonstrates is their own.
My point was merely with regard to peoples beliefs and stating opinion (informed or otherwise) as if it were fact. People are allowed their own opinion...
But if that opinion is demonstrably wrong it should be challenged. You have the right to believe whatever you like, but you don't have the right to have that belief respected if it is clearly and demonstrably nonsense. And I'm only referring to the flat earth comment here incidentally, I'm deliberately and carefully not getting involved in the main discussion
In that case, with all due respect, you might be better off posting on another type of forum.
Really? Why? Have we outlawed facts on here now?
LHC if you are going to entirely miss my point (meant humorously originally but taken way, way too seriously by yourself) about opinions being OK and that sometimes 'facts' can change then here is somebody else's opinion contradicting your 'fact'. The 'Myth' only related to educated Europeans (in summary many people did believe the earth was flat but were eventually proved wrong). I think you may have taken your quote out of context without looking at the wider information:
The Flat Earth
model is an archaic belief that the Earth
's shape is a plane
. Most ancient cultures have had conceptions of a flat Earth, including Greece
until the classical period
, the Bronze Age
and Iron Age
civilizations of the Near East
until the Hellenistic period
until the Gupta period
(early centuries AD) and China
until the 17th century. It was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas
, and a flat Earth domed by thefirmament
in the shape of an inverted bowl is common in pre-scientific societies.
The Jewish conception of a flat earth is to be found in biblical as in post biblical times.
The paradigm of a spherical Earth
was developed in Greek astronomy
, beginning with Pythagoras
(6th century BC), although most Pre-Socratics
retained the flat Earth model. Aristotle
accepted the spherical shape of the Earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, and knowledge of the spherical Earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world
from then on.
The misconception that educated Europeans at the time ofColumbus
believed in a flat Earth, and that his voyages refuted that belief, has been referred to as the "Myth of the Flat Earth
In 1945, it was listed by the Historical Association
) as the second of 20 in a pamphlet on common errors in history.