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I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
 

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Blacksabbath25 said:
Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew 

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do  .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct
Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp.
I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass
Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
 

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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ?
 

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Page 10 - MAIN IN jacks - use these jacks to connect a component equipped with a volume control.

Then keep reading...... then follow on to page 17 for connection information which shows an example of the connection to the MAIN In using a pair of rca cables from an AV receiver.

So it does seem pretty clear to use a set of rca cables from the pre-outs of your AV into the MAIN IN on your A-S2100.

Not sure why then your AV does not recognise the front speakers? That's more reading I'm afraid in the AV manual this time. *smile*
 

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Page 10 - MAIN IN jacks - use these jacks to connect a component equipped with a volume control.

Then keep reading...... then follow on to page 17 for connection information which shows an example of the connection to the MAIN In using a pair of rca cables from an AV receiver.

So it does seem pretty clear to use a set of rca cables from the pre-outs of your AV into the MAIN IN on your A-S2100.

Not sure why then your AV does not recognise the front speakers? That's more reading I'm afraid in the AV manual this time. *smile*
yep been reading the Av manual tonight

I will try the main connection tomorrow it's been awhile since I've had a home cinema 10years was the last time I had one and then it was all manually setup analog connections but I understood it back then .

i was excited to get the Av up and running but surprised how much has changed over the years but thanks for the help
 

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Blacksabbath25 said:
Andrewjvt said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew 

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do  .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ? 
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important
You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here)
This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
 

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MAIN IN jacks
Use these jacks to connect an external component
equipped with a volume control.
y
When you select MAIN DIRECT as the input source, the
volume level is fixed.
Adjust the volume level using the volume control on the
external amplifier connected to the MAIN IN jacks when you
select MAIN DIRECT as the input source.
For the connection to the MAIN IN jacks, see pages 16 and 17.

So that's what you need to do
Left and right front preouts on the av amp to the MAIN IN rca connectors on the stereo 2100 amp see page 16
 

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Andrewjvt said:
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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ?
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .
 

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Blacksabbath25 said:
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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew 

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do  .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ? 
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .

Yes that's what i was trying to explain a few posts ago.
You need to tell the av amp that you are using a power amp for the fronts in the settings now
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
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Andrewjvt said:
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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ?
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .

Yes that's what i was trying to explain a few posts ago. You need to tell the av amp that you are using a power amp for the fronts in the settings now
ok andrew

not had time to look today i have been messing around mouting the center speaker which took ages i got 1 dali LCR today as i had to order them in and 2 more next week for the backs but sounds great with just L+R+C .

no sub yet as this little lot got a lot to buy but will sound great when all in place i will look tomorrow at the settings more but got all the connections right anyway just got to tell the AV i have a music amp connected .
 

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Blacksabbath25 said:
Andrewjvt said:
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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew 

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do  .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ? 
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .

Yes that's what i was trying to explain a few posts ago. You need to tell the av amp that you are using a power amp for the fronts in the settings now
ok andrew

not had time to look today i have been messing around mouting the center speaker which took ages i got  1 dali LCR today as i had to order them in and 2 more next week for the backs but sounds great with just L+R+C .

no sub yet as this little lot got a lot to buy but will sound great when all in place i will look tomorrow at the settings more but got all the connections right anyway just got to tell the AV i have a music amp connected  .
I would have a look at bk subs
Great value for money
Let us know how you get on
 

Blacksabbath25

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Andrewjvt said:
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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ?
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .

Yes that's what i was trying to explain a few posts ago. You need to tell the av amp that you are using a power amp for the fronts in the settings now
ok andrew

not had time to look today i have been messing around mouting the center speaker which took ages i got 1 dali LCR today as i had to order them in and 2 more next week for the backs but sounds great with just L+R+C .

no sub yet as this little lot got a lot to buy but will sound great when all in place i will look tomorrow at the settings more but got all the connections right anyway just got to tell the AV i have a music amp connected .
I would have a look at bk subs Great value for money Let us know how you get on
hi andrew

found power amp assignment in manual setup the picture shows my L+Rs are in blue showing they are there but in the list there is a bit that says external amp which say none

then if i go to speaker confguration my speakers are in pink and not available in manual setup
 

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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew 

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do  .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ? 
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .

Yes that's what i was trying to explain a few posts ago. You need to tell the av amp that you are using a power amp for the fronts in the settings now
ok andrew

not had time to look today i have been messing around mouting the center speaker which took ages i got  1 dali LCR today as i had to order them in and 2 more next week for the backs but sounds great with just L+R+C .

no sub yet as this little lot got a lot to buy but will sound great when all in place i will look tomorrow at the settings more but got all the connections right anyway just got to tell the AV i have a music amp connected  .
I would have a look at bk subs Great value for money Let us know how you get on
hi andrew

found power amp assignment in manual setup  the picture shows my L+Rs are in blue showing they are there but in the list there is a bit that says external amp which say none

then if i go to speaker confguration my speakers are in pink and not available  in manual setup
Hi
You on the right track
Difficult if not in front of your setup screen to help but try again and see if anything you've missed or not saved
That's how I got my old hegel and yamaha 3050 to hook up
 

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Andrewjvt said:
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Andrewjvt said:
I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ?
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .

Yes that's what i was trying to explain a few posts ago. You need to tell the av amp that you are using a power amp for the fronts in the settings now
ok andrew

not had time to look today i have been messing around mouting the center speaker which took ages i got 1 dali LCR today as i had to order them in and 2 more next week for the backs but sounds great with just L+R+C .

no sub yet as this little lot got a lot to buy but will sound great when all in place i will look tomorrow at the settings more but got all the connections right anyway just got to tell the AV i have a music amp connected .
I would have a look at bk subs Great value for money Let us know how you get on
hi andrew

found power amp assignment in manual setup the picture shows my L+Rs are in blue showing they are there but in the list there is a bit that says external amp which say none

then if i go to speaker confguration my speakers are in pink and not available in manual setup
Hi You on the right track Difficult if not in front of your setup screen to help but try again and see if anything you've missed or not saved That's how I got my old hegel and yamaha 3050 to hook up
hi

I've managed to get to the point were I have now used the YPAO and the test tone tests my fronts which is good but I can not change the speaker size that's all .

the Yamaha YPAO seems to be not very accurate as I've checked the numbers and the fact that the YPAO says my front L+Rs are out of phase which they are not as I have checked them but when I've looked around the internet and the Yamaha website it says this can happen even though your connections are correct something to do with room .

so I have had to do things the old way and measure the distances I just need to buy a sound meter to get the levels right then sorted .
 

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I think you've not connected up correct I would let music craft help you as you definitely can see left and right front etc as that's how I set up the hegel and yamaha. You need av bypass on the stereo amp
hi Andrew

there is no such thing on my 2100 that says Av bypass on my 2100 I basically I have the pre-out section and then the main in or out can't remember . Like I've said on the above posts I am getting sound like I should do .

my 2100 is basically a slave or power amp now to the 1070 but the 1070 does not show I've got the left and rights connected the reasons for this is that my main L+Rs are connected to the 2100 as I can't see how the 1070 can tell I have the main L+Rs ?
As I've had the same av amp as you something does not seem correct Please confirm that you have rca leads on the preouts of the av amp? Take a photo of the connection on av amp. I'll read the 2 100 manual tonight to see if you can program an av bypass Or just give rick a call he sells those amps
yep using RCA leads to make the connection and yes using pre-out fronts on the Av as this section on the back of the Av amp is sectioned pre-out section

am I suppose to see the L+Rs then on the Av in the setup menu ?
Yes all connected correctly so when in calibration mode you should see the fronts

Now this is important You need to select power amp for fronts on the av speaker configuration settings (I'm going off memory here) This way you'll see the front recognised I hope

Now we need to check if you can configure the stereo amp input as an av bypass input on constant high volume so the av controls the volume
just checked the connections I have already got the RCAs in the main in on the 2100 and on the av amp in the pre-out L+R so do not understand why then I can not see my L+Rs in the Av speaker configuration ? I reckon then I've got to tell the Av that I've got a stereo amp connected in the Av settings which I have not come across yet only thing I've seen is by - amping section .

Yes that's what i was trying to explain a few posts ago. You need to tell the av amp that you are using a power amp for the fronts in the settings now
ok andrew

not had time to look today i have been messing around mouting the center speaker which took ages i got 1 dali LCR today as i had to order them in and 2 more next week for the backs but sounds great with just L+R+C .

no sub yet as this little lot got a lot to buy but will sound great when all in place i will look tomorrow at the settings more but got all the connections right anyway just got to tell the AV i have a music amp connected .
I would have a look at bk subs Great value for money Let us know how you get on
hi andrew

found power amp assignment in manual setup the picture shows my L+Rs are in blue showing they are there but in the list there is a bit that says external amp which say none

then if i go to speaker confguration my speakers are in pink and not available in manual setup
Hi You on the right track Difficult if not in front of your setup screen to help but try again and see if anything you've missed or not saved That's how I got my old hegel and yamaha 3050 to hook up
hi

I've managed to get to the point were I have now used the YPAO and the test tone tests my fronts which is good but I can not change the speaker size that's all .

the Yamaha YPAO seems to be not very accurate as I've checked the numbers and the fact that the YPAO says my front L+Rs are out of phase which they are not as I have checked them but when I've looked around the internet and the Yamaha website it says this can happen even though your connections are correct something to do with room .

so I have had to do things the old way and measure the distances I just need to buy a sound meter to get the levels right then sorted .

at least it shows the fronts now - you can always buy a cheap db reader and calibrate it yourself.

i adjust manually anyway as i find i need the centre a little higher
 

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Hi Andrew

yep that's how I used to do it years ago when AVs never had the YPAO I find the old way easier

ive been reading on the Av forum about setting the L+Rs to small or big they say ones I get a sub then this setting will be available to me in the Av menu and then I can set my crossovers as well .

but sounds great with just 3 speakers connected and my Dali opticon 8s knock some bass out when watching a films .

but thanks for the help *smile*
 

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Blacksabbath25 said:
Hi Andrew 

yep that's how I used to do it years ago when AVs never had the YPAO I find the old way easier 

ive been reading on the Av forum about setting the L+Rs to small or big they say ones I get a sub then this setting will be available to me in the Av menu and then I can set my crossovers as well .

but sounds great with just 3 speakers connected and my Dali opticon 8s knock some bass out when watching a films  .

but thanks for the help *smile*

Once all connected with surrounds and sub let us know how it sounds
 

Blacksabbath25

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Andrewjvt said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
Hi Andrew

yep that's how I used to do it years ago when AVs never had the YPAO I find the old way easier

ive been reading on the Av forum about setting the L+Rs to small or big they say ones I get a sub then this setting will be available to me in the Av menu and then I can set my crossovers as well .

but sounds great with just 3 speakers connected and my Dali opticon 8s knock some bass out when watching a films .

but thanks for the help *smile*

Once all connected with surrounds and sub let us know how it sounds
yes will do

I've changed my mind on the back speakers as I was going to buy 2 more Dali opticon LCRs but thought about it and cancelled the order as I thought spending £500 each for back speakers was silly .

so ordered in the Dali opticon 1s to look at as I do not my living room looking like richer sounds show room so the opticon 1s will sit quiet happy next to a wall and I will use my speaker brackets to support them .

the opticon 1s are £499 for a pair and to be honest I did not really want to spend that on backs I was thinking on the lines of zensers 1s or the peco 1s of the Dali range as you do not get that much sound out of the backs anyway but I phoned the richer sounds shop up to day to cancel my order on the LCRs and spoke about why I changed my mind and they thought it was over kill spending £499 each on 2 backs .

so they thought it would still be better to keep with the opticon range but go for the opticon 1s and then I was hoping at the same time buying the sub and speaker cable for the backs and a sub cable .

But it's been so long since I've had a home cinema setup I forgot if it's worth spending good money on back speakers or not I've definitely spent the money on the font end which the shop thought was important to get a good sound out of it all .

i would normally post this in the home cinema threads buy hardly anyone respondeds to your posts only big boss so sorry Admins .
 

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Blacksabbath25 said:
Andrewjvt said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
Hi Andrew 

yep that's how I used to do it years ago when AVs never had the YPAO I find the old way easier 

ive been reading on the Av forum about setting the L+Rs to small or big they say ones I get a sub then this setting will be available to me in the Av menu and then I can set my crossovers as well .

but sounds great with just 3 speakers connected and my Dali opticon 8s knock some bass out when watching a films  .

but thanks for the help *smile*

Once all connected with surrounds and sub let us know how it sounds
yes will do 

I've changed my mind on the back speakers as I was going to buy 2 more Dali opticon LCRs but thought about it and cancelled the order as I thought spending £500 each for back speakers was silly .

so ordered in the Dali opticon 1s to look at as I do not my living room looking like richer sounds show room so the opticon 1s will sit quiet happy next to a wall and I will use my speaker brackets to support them  .

the opticon 1s are £499 for a pair and to be honest I did not really want to spend that on backs I was thinking on the lines of zensers 1s or the peco 1s of the Dali range as you do not get that much sound out of the backs anyway but I phoned the richer sounds shop up to day to cancel my order on the LCRs and spoke about why I changed my mind and they thought it was over kill spending £499 each on 2 backs .

so they thought it would still be better to keep with the opticon range but go for the opticon 1s and then I was hoping at the same time buying the sub and speaker cable for the backs and a sub cable . 

But it's been so long since I've had a home cinema setup I forgot if it's worth spending good money on back speakers or not I've definitely spent the money on the font end which the shop thought was important to get a good sound out of it all  .

i would normally post this in the home cinema threads buy hardly anyone respondeds to your posts only big boss so sorry Admins .

 

I would have done the same to save money
Those opticon 1s will sound great and the sub will add so much to soundtracks
When it's all set up watch skull island
 

Blacksabbath25

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Andrewjvt said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
Andrewjvt said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
Hi Andrew

yep that's how I used to do it years ago when AVs never had the YPAO I find the old way easier

ive been reading on the Av forum about setting the L+Rs to small or big they say ones I get a sub then this setting will be available to me in the Av menu and then I can set my crossovers as well .

but sounds great with just 3 speakers connected and my Dali opticon 8s knock some bass out when watching a films .

but thanks for the help *smile*

Once all connected with surrounds and sub let us know how it sounds
yes will do

I've changed my mind on the back speakers as I was going to buy 2 more Dali opticon LCRs but thought about it and cancelled the order as I thought spending £500 each for back speakers was silly .

so ordered in the Dali opticon 1s to look at as I do not my living room looking like richer sounds show room so the opticon 1s will sit quiet happy next to a wall and I will use my speaker brackets to support them .

the opticon 1s are £499 for a pair and to be honest I did not really want to spend that on backs I was thinking on the lines of zensers 1s or the peco 1s of the Dali range as you do not get that much sound out of the backs anyway but I phoned the richer sounds shop up to day to cancel my order on the LCRs and spoke about why I changed my mind and they thought it was over kill spending £499 each on 2 backs .

so they thought it would still be better to keep with the opticon range but go for the opticon 1s and then I was hoping at the same time buying the sub and speaker cable for the backs and a sub cable .

But it's been so long since I've had a home cinema setup I forgot if it's worth spending good money on back speakers or not I've definitely spent the money on the font end which the shop thought was important to get a good sound out of it all .

i would normally post this in the home cinema threads buy hardly anyone respondeds to your posts only big boss so sorry Admins .

I would have done the same to save money Those opticon 1s will sound great and the sub will add so much to soundtracks When it's all set up watch skull island
yep I have skull island good film I watched trainsformers on Sunday that sounded good with just 3 speakers and without a sub I couldn't believe the amount of bass my opticon 8s kicked out .

anyway I let you no ones it's all together should sound great .
 

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