I was talking about Spotify's 320kbps vs my CDs. All played through the DAC on my CDP, and my amps, and my speakers, using the same cables. The 320kbps lacks bass, is therefore overly trebly and really nowhere near as nice a listen. Fine for background music but for proper listening...erm no.
chebby: It is obvious from what you say that you (literally) don't have much time for music, whereas I work from home so have the system on up to 15 hours a day.
You lucky .... Yeah, music (or even home cinema) is a luxury for me, inasmuch that it's something I only get to do now and again so I like to maximise the experience, hence as to why I got the best TV I could find for watching films. I'll be doing the same thing for the music side of things now that I'm in a position to.
We are diametrically opposed even on the subject of radio. If forced to a choice I would throw out the TV and DVD (and even the CD player) if it meant I could keep a radio and yet I cannot enjoy radio in a car.
Oh that's easy enough to achieve, just spend 4 hours a day sitting on the M5 (other motorways are available)...
You lucky .... Yeah, music (or even home cinema) is a luxury for me, inasmuch that it's something I only get to do now and again so I like to maximise the experience, hence as to why I got the best TV I could find for watching films. I'll be doing the same thing for the music side of things now that I'm in a position to.
We are diametrically opposed even on the subject of radio. If forced to a choice I would throw out the TV and DVD (and even the CD player) if it meant I could keep a radio and yet I cannot enjoy radio in a car.
Oh that's easy enough to achieve, just spend 4 hours a day sitting on the M5 (other motorways are available)...
I listen to 320kbps mp3's and if anything they have a slightly more woolly bass, slightly more pronounced than Flac. They are certainly improved via my Dac.
320kbps mp3's are perfectly acceptable to me, some people on the forum seem to display a obsessive behaviour when it comes to music formats/cables/mains supplies etc.
For me, the music comes first!
320kbps mp3's are perfectly acceptable to me, some people on the forum seem to display a obsessive behaviour when it comes to music formats/cables/mains supplies etc.
For me, the music comes first!
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the_lhc:You lucky ....
Well I had 28 years of 'going to work' like everyone else. Not only that, but all on rotating shifts. So I worked (still work) nights, evenings, days, every other weekend, some bank holidays - even Christmas day - and a mixture of 12 hour shifts (at weekends) and 8 hour shifts.
Two years ago, when the opportunity was presented, I bought myself a (company approved) laptop and got myself set up here at home. We can use a company 'pool' laptop but I preferred to buy my own. That way I get a higher spec machine, and I get to keep it if I leave and I don't inherit someones else's old breakfast crumbs lodged in between keys etc! My Dell laptop's 4 year onsite, next day cover is also 10 times speedier than our IT support dept could ever conceive of being.
I save a fortune in travel costs, and company 'restaurant' food/coffees etc, and my free time starts the second I log-off for the day (or night) and I 'arrive' at work 10 minutes after getting up (via bathroom and kitchen) with a great big mug of hot fresh tea made exactly how I like it to start the day (or night) rather than the overpriced #### spat out of some machine at work.
I get to listen to whatever I want whilst working, at whatever volume I choose (except at night when it is kept low for the folks obviously).
Anyone who can do this should. It is a great sanity saver. On a sunny day I can move the laptop/screen/keyboard/mouse/documents/wireless phone extension out on to the conservatory table and watch the garden whilst working and listen to the Pure Evoke Flow internet/DAB/FM radio instead.
Well I had 28 years of 'going to work' like everyone else. Not only that, but all on rotating shifts. So I worked (still work) nights, evenings, days, every other weekend, some bank holidays - even Christmas day - and a mixture of 12 hour shifts (at weekends) and 8 hour shifts.
Two years ago, when the opportunity was presented, I bought myself a (company approved) laptop and got myself set up here at home. We can use a company 'pool' laptop but I preferred to buy my own. That way I get a higher spec machine, and I get to keep it if I leave and I don't inherit someones else's old breakfast crumbs lodged in between keys etc! My Dell laptop's 4 year onsite, next day cover is also 10 times speedier than our IT support dept could ever conceive of being.
I save a fortune in travel costs, and company 'restaurant' food/coffees etc, and my free time starts the second I log-off for the day (or night) and I 'arrive' at work 10 minutes after getting up (via bathroom and kitchen) with a great big mug of hot fresh tea made exactly how I like it to start the day (or night) rather than the overpriced #### spat out of some machine at work.
I get to listen to whatever I want whilst working, at whatever volume I choose (except at night when it is kept low for the folks obviously).
Anyone who can do this should. It is a great sanity saver. On a sunny day I can move the laptop/screen/keyboard/mouse/documents/wireless phone extension out on to the conservatory table and watch the garden whilst working and listen to the Pure Evoke Flow internet/DAB/FM radio instead.
Bert Puttocks:320kbps mp3's are perfectly acceptable to me, some people on the forum seem to display a obsessive behaviour when it comes to music formats/cables/mains supplies etc.
For me, the music comes first!
So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
For me, the music comes first!
So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
the_lhc:Bert Puttocks:320kbps mp3's are perfectly acceptable to me, some people on the forum seem to display a obsessive behaviour when it comes to music formats/cables/mains supplies etc.
For me, the music comes first!
So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
+1
For me, the music comes first!
So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
+1
Willie Cocker:the_lhc:So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
+1
All right, then, 321kbps. Pedant...
+1
All right, then, 321kbps. Pedant...
chebby:
Andrew Everard:As his avatar suggests, Chebby flies long-range nuclear bombers. From home.
Well not any more Andrew
Though I do still have a bike lock!
No, I do something terribly prosaic in the backwaters of IT.
I was going to make a joke about being paid to surf the net from home, but presumably I'm not that far off the mark then?
Unfortunately I'm in front-line IT so I can't work from home (client doesn't allow VPN access sadly). Maybe someday, when I become a manager or something...
Andrew Everard:As his avatar suggests, Chebby flies long-range nuclear bombers. From home.
Well not any more Andrew
Though I do still have a bike lock!
No, I do something terribly prosaic in the backwaters of IT.
I was going to make a joke about being paid to surf the net from home, but presumably I'm not that far off the mark then?
Unfortunately I'm in front-line IT so I can't work from home (client doesn't allow VPN access sadly). Maybe someday, when I become a manager or something...
Andrew Everard:Willie Cocker:the_lhc:So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
+1
All right, then, 321kbps. Pedant...
+1
All right, then, 321kbps. Pedant...
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the_lhc:I was going to make a joke about being paid to surf the net from home, but presumably I'm not that far off the mark then?
I could say "back at you" but I don't know if you are on a day off and you don't know what shift I am on today. Either way we are both here during what normal people call 'business' hours.
I could say "back at you" but I don't know if you are on a day off and you don't know what shift I am on today. Either way we are both here during what normal people call 'business' hours.
the_lhc:I'm in front-line IT
"You guys lay down covering fire - I'm gonna send
the enemy a tweet they won't forget in a hurry"
"You guys lay down covering fire - I'm gonna send
the enemy a tweet they won't forget in a hurry"
chebby:the_lhc:I was going to make a joke about being paid to surf the net from home, but presumably I'm not that far off the mark then?
I could say "back at you" but I don't know if you are on a day off and you don't know what shift I am on today. Either way we are both here during what normal people call 'business' hours.
Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I'm quite happy to admit at work now, the job is sporadic. I was genuinely inquiring as to whether your job involved surfing the net, which obviously can be done from home easily, unlike my job, which can't.
I want to know what sort of career I should be looking at so I can stay at home!
I could say "back at you" but I don't know if you are on a day off and you don't know what shift I am on today. Either way we are both here during what normal people call 'business' hours.
Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I'm quite happy to admit at work now, the job is sporadic. I was genuinely inquiring as to whether your job involved surfing the net, which obviously can be done from home easily, unlike my job, which can't.
I want to know what sort of career I should be looking at so I can stay at home!
the_lhc:Bert Puttocks:320kbps mp3's are perfectly acceptable to me, some people on the forum seem to display a obsessive behaviour when it comes to music formats/cables/mains supplies etc.
For me, the music comes first!
So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
If I was ripping it would be lossless; if its something I download; 320kbps is perfectly acceptable (as I said).
The music (still) comes first!
For me, the music comes first!
So "the music comes first", does that mean then that given the choice between ripping at 320kbps and ripping at lossless, you'd choose 320kbps?
If I was ripping it would be lossless; if its something I download; 320kbps is perfectly acceptable (as I said).
The music (still) comes first!
listen at home when you want, if you want,what you want. at the best quality you can get - cd or for those that have it - cd/sacd whatever
want a party with the latest songs available that you arnt going to buy coz you will never play them again ?
cant be bothered puting your drink down to change cd every 40m ?
want to listen to hidden obscure gems you cant buy ?
mp3/apple/pears/bananas/lossless/findless whatever
do you think your guests are going to come up to you midway through ' timewarp ' and say ' excuse me host, do you realise this *** song would be much more appreciated in 320kbps' ?
no, neither do i
take things for what they are convenience v quality - thats what we are asking, only there will never be a correct answer because both are right
want a party with the latest songs available that you arnt going to buy coz you will never play them again ?
cant be bothered puting your drink down to change cd every 40m ?
want to listen to hidden obscure gems you cant buy ?
mp3/apple/pears/bananas/lossless/findless whatever
do you think your guests are going to come up to you midway through ' timewarp ' and say ' excuse me host, do you realise this *** song would be much more appreciated in 320kbps' ?
no, neither do i
take things for what they are convenience v quality - thats what we are asking, only there will never be a correct answer because both are right
pauldownton1979:
listen at home when you want, if you want,what you want. at the best quality you can get - cd or for those that have it - cd/sacd whatever
want a party with the latest songs available that you arnt going to buy coz you will never play them again ?
cant be bothered puting your drink down to change cd every 40m ?
want to listen to hidden obscure gems you cant buy ?
mp3/apple/pears/bananas/lossless/findless whatever
do you think your guests are going to come up to you midway through ' timewarp ' and say ' excuse me host, do you realise this *** song would be much more appreciated in 320kbps' ?
no, neither do i
take things for what they are convenience v quality - thats what we are asking, only there will never be a correct answer because both are right
Couldn't agree more. That's half the reason I got a new CDP with digital in. I can Spotify playlists, and later on put CDs on to chill at higher quality.
listen at home when you want, if you want,what you want. at the best quality you can get - cd or for those that have it - cd/sacd whatever
want a party with the latest songs available that you arnt going to buy coz you will never play them again ?
cant be bothered puting your drink down to change cd every 40m ?
want to listen to hidden obscure gems you cant buy ?
mp3/apple/pears/bananas/lossless/findless whatever
do you think your guests are going to come up to you midway through ' timewarp ' and say ' excuse me host, do you realise this *** song would be much more appreciated in 320kbps' ?
no, neither do i
take things for what they are convenience v quality - thats what we are asking, only there will never be a correct answer because both are right
Couldn't agree more. That's half the reason I got a new CDP with digital in. I can Spotify playlists, and later on put CDs on to chill at higher quality.
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Try this...
http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Listen
Select 192k quality and it should open in iTunes.
If RP sounds 'thin' then I would say you need to check over all your settings. (Windows, Mac, iTunes, Quicktime, iTunes Equalizer etc..)
Here are some guides....
For iTunes/Quicktime on Macs
For iTunes/Quicktime on Windows
Audio settings for Windows XP
Audio settings for Vista
And don't forget to disable the 'equalizer' in your iTunes.
http://www.radioparadise.com/content.php?name=Listen
Select 192k quality and it should open in iTunes.
If RP sounds 'thin' then I would say you need to check over all your settings. (Windows, Mac, iTunes, Quicktime, iTunes Equalizer etc..)
Here are some guides....
For iTunes/Quicktime on Macs
For iTunes/Quicktime on Windows
Audio settings for Windows XP
Audio settings for Vista
And don't forget to disable the 'equalizer' in your iTunes.
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Nice one Chebby. I have followed the advice given in the 'For Windows XP' and Spotify sounds better! But I also tried itunes and it has not cured the crackling problem.
EDIT - I should say; the changes I made were to set the volume in Sounds and Devices at maximum (turning down the volume on my amp to compensate) and changing the sample rate from 44.1 to 96 khz in Quicktime. As a result the bass (which Joel criticised for being awol ) has beefed up and overall clarity has improved slightly.
EDIT - I should say; the changes I made were to set the volume in Sounds and Devices at maximum (turning down the volume on my amp to compensate) and changing the sample rate from 44.1 to 96 khz in Quicktime. As a result the bass (which Joel criticised for being awol ) has beefed up and overall clarity has improved slightly.
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idc, have you tried downloading and reinstalling iTunes completely across the top of the one you have now?
You won't lose anything (settings, playlists, purchased, account details etc.will all get picked up fine.)
Do your regular system backup first though, just for peace of mind.
You won't lose anything (settings, playlists, purchased, account details etc.will all get picked up fine.)
Do your regular system backup first though, just for peace of mind.
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