Will a Pioneer 320 blu-ray work with my TV?

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Hi,

First post so be gentle.

I see the Pioneer 320 blu-ray player has taken a bit of a price drop making it a tempting alternative to the Sony 760 once more (its about £30 cheaper at various places now).

I have a Pioneer DVD player and would like to upgrade to blu-ray but having downloaded the 320 manual am not sure just what it would be outputting to my TV which is a Panasonic 42 inch PX60 plasma. This is a HD ready TV not a full 1080p set.

I would have thought some sort of 720p signal would be what the TV wants to see (my sons Xbox 360 seems to work like this with the set) but the Pioneer manual is confusing and I can't work out if you can manually select what the 320 will output or if the 320 detects the TV can't process at full 1080p and so defaults to some other format.

Can anyone out there confirm the player works well with a Panasonic PX60 and/or if the Pio 320 can be manually set to work with non-1080p sets.

Thanks

 

[The_Lhc]

Yes, every blu-ray player can be set to 720p, if you're lucky it'll work it out for itself, so you won't need to worry.

 

[Anonymous]

the_lhc:Yes, every blu-ray player can be set to 720p, if you're lucky it'll work it out for itself, so you won't need to worry.

Thanks for the quick response and that is what I thought but I could not find how to do that looking at the Pio 320 manual.

The manual states this:

"When Auto is selected, the picture is output at 60 frames/second if your TV is not compatible with 1080/24p signals."

I assume that would be 720/60p or would it be 1080/60i??? It isn't made clear what the resolution is when it defaults it.

Looking at the manual again I can see it implies a range of output resolutions could be manually selected so I guess what I really need to know is what is the optimum resolution choice to play 1080/24p discs on a HD ready plasma such as my PX60?

 

[Sliced Bread]

PerfectVision:
the_lhc:Yes, every blu-ray player can be set to 720p, if you're lucky it'll work it out for itself, so you won't need to worry.

Thanks for the quick response and that is what I thought but I could not find how to do that looking at the Pio 320 manual.

The manual states this:

"When Auto is selected, the picture is output at 60 frames/second if your TV is not compatible with 1080/24p signals."

I assume that would be 720/60p or would it be 1080/60i??? It isn't made clear what the resolution is when it defaults it.

Looking at the manual again I can see it implies a range of output resolutions could be manually selected so I guess what I really need to know is what is the optimum resolution choice to play 1080/24p discs on a HD ready plasma such as my PX60?

I'm afraid the 320 cannot output 720P. If you do not have a 1080p set it will output the signal in 1080i.

The picture is still very good though, even on my 50" HD Ready Plasma.

 

[TitusG]

Hi there

I used to have a px 60 panasonic and they don't support 24fps. This may result in a noticable screen judder (didn't try bluray on my Pany but have seen it on other tellys) it may pay to borrow a bluray player if you can and see how bad the judder is.

 

[Anonymous]

TitusG:
Hi there

I used to have a px 60 panasonic and they don't support 24fps. This may result in a noticable screen judder (didn't try bluray on my Pany but have seen it on other tellys) it may pay to borrow a bluray player if you can and see how bad the judder is.

OK, thanks so 24fps is out.

So do you mean you get judder if you try and output at 24fps to a TV that can't handle it or do you mean you still get judder if you set the blu-ray player to output at higher fps because the blu-ray player can't map 24fps to the higher frame rate properly?

 

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PerfectVision:TitusG:
Hi there

I used to have a px 60 panasonic and they don't support 24fps. This may result in a noticable screen judder (didn't try bluray on my Pany but have seen it on other tellys) it may pay to borrow a bluray player if you can and see how bad the judder is.

OK, thanks so 24fps is out.

So do you mean you get judder if you try and output at 24fps to a TV that can't handle it or do you mean you still get judder if you set the blu-ray player to output at higher fps because the blu-ray player can't map 24fps to the higher frame rate properly?

The 320 automatically picks up 24fps and will output it if your TV is capable of it, if not it will output it in a format that your TV understands.

 

[Anonymous]

JohnNewman:
The 320 automatically picks up 24fps and will output it if your TV is capable of it, if not it will output it in a format that your TV understands.

OK if it does that it will have to output at 60 fps and the implication from one of the previous posts is that this will result in visible judder.

If so I presume this is because the player does not map well from the 24 fps frames as recorded on the disc to the 60 fps it must send to the TV.

It seems odd to me players would not be able to perform this operation properly given they are actually capable of outputting at 60 fps and so I am now wondering if this is a common problem or if some players are better at this than others including the Pio 320.

 

[margetti]

PerfectVision:
JohnNewman:
The 320 automatically picks up 24fps and will output it if your TV is capable of it, if not it will output it in a format that your TV understands.

OK if it does that it will have to output at 60 fps and the implication from one of the previous posts is that this will result in visible judder.

If so I presume this is because the player does not map well from the 24 fps frames as recorded on the disc to the 60 fps it must send to the TV.

It seems odd to me players would not be able to perform this operation properly given they are actually capable of outputting at 60 fps and so I am now wondering if this is a common problem or if some players are better at this than others including the Pio 320.

My tv isn't capable of 24fps and the 320 works fine - no problems at all whether the 320 outputs at its "automaticly detected" setting of 60fps, or I force it to output at 24fps (which the tv will adjust to 60fps anyway).

Worth getting a home demo all the same - only way to be sure at the end of the day.

 

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margetti:PerfectVision:
JohnNewman:
The 320 automatically picks up 24fps and will output it if your TV is capable of it, if not it will output it in a format that your TV understands.

OK if it does that it will have to output at 60 fps and the implication from one of the previous posts is that this will result in visible judder.

If so I presume this is because the player does not map well from the 24 fps frames as recorded on the disc to the 60 fps it must send to the TV.

It seems odd to me players would not be able to perform this operation properly given they are actually capable of outputting at 60 fps and so I am now wondering if this is a common problem or if some players are better at this than others including the Pio 320.

My tv isn't capable of 24fps and the 320 works fine - no problems at all whether the 320 outputs at its "automaticly detected" setting of 60fps, or I force it to output at 24fps (which the tv will adjust to 60fps anyway).

Worth getting a home demo all the same - only way to be sure at the end of the day.

Ditto - No problems with it at this end.

EDIT: I have noticed that Casino Royal has slightly more Judder than the DVD, however nothing of note. I have not seen any such judder on other disks, so it maybe down to the disk. I have not seen Casino Royal in 24fps to compare.