Which speakers with soft-dome tweeter for metal?

[peterpan]

Most speakers today sounds horrible with metal. Too bright. A dealer told me that nowadays speakers wil be more and more neutral and more open. This means rock and metal with their bad recordings sounds very bad on these speakers. Het told me avoid metal tweeters and look at speakers with a soft dome. But which speakers with a soft dome are suitable for rock and metal? I don't like Dynaudio.

 

[lindsayt]

Your dealer is speaking nonsense, or at best only part of the story.

Most modern speakers have a too lean a tonal balance, because of the pursuit of small size for marketing / domestic acceptability purposes. Most modern speakers are less neutral than old school full size designs. Most modern speakers sound less open than old school high efficiency (greater than 96db/2.83v @ 1 metre) designs.

If you're just going to restrict your choice of speaker to small modern ones, then soft dome tweeters makes some sense.

If you don't have such restrictions, there are plenty of speakers that have used metal tweeters, or cone tweeters or compression driven tweeters that are relatively neutral and sound great with rock music.

I think that typical rock recordings, eg Rush, Led Zep, Bachmann Turner Overdrive, Nirvana sound fine on systems with decent bass extension and clarity. On lean systems they can sound like bad recordings.

I'm with you on Dynaudio. I've not liked any of their speakers that I've heard.

I think that the trick for you, peterpan is to find a speaker system that has a decent amount of bass extension, tightness and clarity, as well as having decent midrange and treble clarity. And preferably something that sounds dynamic and not shut-in.

 

[Electro]

These should do everything you want as long as you put strong amp in front of them .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PMC-AB2-Speakers-with-stands-Oak-finish-all-original-boxes-Fully-Working-/381269940299?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item58c575984b

This amp should do the trick .

https://www.acaudio.co.uk/live-sound/amplifiers-235/power-amplifiers-236/multi-channel-786/MCT1000.asp?gclid=CLab2ayi38UCFQXJtAodySQAOA

This of course depends on your budget *smile*

 

[peterpan]

I think that the trick for you, peterpan is to find a speaker system that has a decent amount of bass extension, tightness and clarity, as well as having decent midrange and treble clarity. And preferably something that sounds dynamic and not shut-in.

What do you think of MA Silver 6/8 and Focal Aria 926? B&W Cm8S2 sounds nice warm, but afraid the bass is too weak. Also B&W has a tweeter that can be bright.

 

[Mike_Schmidt]

Im really enjoying my Proac Studio 118's for my metallica slayer tool etc. There balanced and very smooth highly recommended

 

[Mike_Schmidt]

Im really enjoying my Proac Studio 118's for my metallica slayer tool etc. There balanced and very smooth highly recommended

 

[rainsoothe]

Your dealer is speaking nonsense, or at best only part of the story.

Most modern speakers have a too lean a tonal balance, because of the pursuit of small size for marketing / domestic acceptability purposes. Most modern speakers are less neutral than old school full size designs. Most modern speakers sound less open than old school high efficiency (greater than 96db/2.83v @ 1 metre) designs.

If you're just going to restrict your choice of speaker to small modern ones, then soft dome tweeters makes some sense.

If you don't have such restrictions, there are plenty of speakers that have used metal tweeters, or cone tweeters or compression driven tweeters that are relatively neutral and sound great with rock music.

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I think that typical rock recordings, eg Rush, Led Zep, Bachmann Turner Overdrive, Nirvana sound fine on systems with decent bass extension and clarity. On lean systems they can sound like bad recordings.

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I'm with you on Dynaudio. I've not liked any of their speakers that I've heard.

I think that the trick for you, peterpan is to find a speaker system that has a decent amount of bass extension, tightness and clarity, as well as having decent midrange and treble clarity. And preferably something that sounds dynamic and not shut-in.

He's right, the material used has little to do with it - I used to own B&W cm5 (s1) and they never sounded bright with either Rotel RA1520 or Supernait 2. They're pretty smooth speakers.

Stay away from silver speaker cable though.

 

[CnoEvil]

Spendor A5R / A6R

 

[peterpan]

Back from another dealer who i've listened to the B&W CM8S2. With my music not fine. The 683S2 was better. The dealer had right for what i need; A not too small speaker, full bodied and warm, not too open. Too open means with my music shrill, bright bad sound. A speaker who gives not too much detail. He also said; very difficult. Those speakers were made 25 years ago like the Tannoys in these days.

 

[BigH]

I thought you wanted "bookshelf" speakers?

 

[SteveR750]

I think you're listening to music through your dealers ears! The material a manufacturer uses for its drivers is irrelevant if they perform well, and there is no apparent correlation between either. There are plenty of harsh, sibilant sounding soft dome tweeters out there...

 

[Andrewjvt]

Steve r750 says:I think you're listening to music through your dealers ears! The material a manufacturer uses for its drivers is irrelevant if they perform well, and there is no apparent correlation between either. There are plenty of harsh, sibilant sounding soft dome tweeters out there...

I say: totaly agree . A dealer has planted a seed and now its grown

 

[Frank Harvey]

Most speakers today sounds horrible with metal. Too bright. A dealer told me that nowadays speakers wil be more and more neutral and more open. This means rock and metal with their bad recordings sounds very bad on these speakers. Het told me avoid metal tweeters and look at speakers with a soft dome. But which speakers with a soft dome are suitable for rock and metal? I don't like Dynaudio.

As I mentioned in the other thread, I don't think your dealer knows what he's talking about. As others have already said, it's not down to the material used. Didn't you say in the other thread that you bought KEF Reference One speakers?