Hi guys I know that in some areas in particular the Plasma's comfortably have the upper hand on the LCD's but does this also apply to gaming?
Which is better for PS3, LCD or Plasma?
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ElectroMan
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I wouldn't say so, no.
(Burn in)ÿ
If I could I would get a projector for my games ÿ
Well I'm a lucky sod and have a plasma AND a PJ for my sky/blu-ray/gaming habits.
Do I, and probably 99% of others, have screen burn these days, NO. Retention may occur for maybe 10 mins, but not on mine.
I'm getting a bit tired of people writing off plasmas for gaming due to the history of screen burn which used to be an issue. It is no longer an issue, screens have features like Orbiter built in to avoid it.
If people want an LCD then go ahead and buy one. If I was gaming 100% on it and watching nothing else then I may consider one, but as I don't live in a virtual world and watch TV as well Plasma is the only choice for me.
R
I wouldn't say so, no.
(Burn in)ÿ
If I could I would get a projector for my games ÿ
Well I'm a lucky sod and have a plasma AND a PJ for my sky/blu-ray/gaming habits.
Do I, and probably 99% of others, have screen burn these days, NO. Retention may occur for maybe 10 mins, but not on mine.
I'm getting a bit tired of people writing off plasmas for gaming due to the history of screen burn which used to be an issue. It is no longer an issue, screens have features like Orbiter built in to avoid it.
If people want an LCD then go ahead and buy one. If I was gaming 100% on it and watching nothing else then I may consider one, but as I don't live in a virtual world and watch TV as well Plasma is the only choice for me.
R
They both have their strong points. It really comes down to preference I think. I've had my plasma for over 2 years now, and I look at most LCD sets and I know the picture is good, but something is just not right about it that I can't put my finger on. Doesn't seem real. So I prefer a decent plasma, but you will find many people who prefer LCDs. I suspect my dislike of some LCDs is because I'm used to plasma, and they are definately different even if it's not black and white which one is better.
At the time I bought my TV if I'd spent the same amount on an LCD of the same size I'm certain it would have been a bit of a lemon for the all round usage I put it through, but the best way is just to go and look at them. Any decent shop would hook a TV up to a source of your choice if possible, so see what you think.
At the time I bought my TV if I'd spent the same amount on an LCD of the same size I'm certain it would have been a bit of a lemon for the all round usage I put it through, but the best way is just to go and look at them. Any decent shop would hook a TV up to a source of your choice if possible, so see what you think.
I'm another sucker for the plasma - I think that the benefits of no input lag and faster refresh rates are really important. As prof said screen burn on a plasma is almost non-existent now unless you're actually trying to make it happen! Go for the plasma
professorhat
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I don't think the question should be "Plasma or LCD?". I think the question should be which is the best TV for my needs. Whether that TV is LCD or plasma shouldn't matter.
professorhat:
I don't think the question should be "Plasma or LCD?". I think the question should be which is the best TV for my needs. Whether that TV is LCD or plasma shouldn't matter.
But it does matter becuase you get soooooo many games with static HUDS, and that could possibly cause screen burn..well thats the reason i got a LCD otherwise i would have got a Plasma...didnt think it was worth the risk with something so expensive..
I don't think the question should be "Plasma or LCD?". I think the question should be which is the best TV for my needs. Whether that TV is LCD or plasma shouldn't matter.
But it does matter becuase you get soooooo many games with static HUDS, and that could possibly cause screen burn..well thats the reason i got a LCD otherwise i would have got a Plasma...didnt think it was worth the risk with something so expensive..
professorhat
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But I've been using plasma for gaming for over 3 years now and have not got screen burn. So you might as well say, I'd like to get an LCD, but I'm worried about the risk of 'clouding'...
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc.
Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc.
Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
professorhat
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professorhat:But I've been using plasma for gaming for over 3 years now and have not got screen burn. So you might as well say, I'd like to get an LCD, but I'm worried about the risk of 'clouding'...
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc. Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
I guess what it boils down to is what kind of games..are there any static images and how many hours will he be playing these games for...when my mates are over a gaming session can last many many hours and the last thing i would want is a permenant health bar burnt into my screen...football games have a little overhead view of the field at the bottom which is permenant, shooters are the worst as they will always have a HUD or a symbol of a gun or ammo clip somewhere or another on the screen...
When it comes to clouding if you are not happy with the set you can take it back to the retailer as it is not your fault, but screen burn due to gaming wont be covered in manufacturers warranty. LCDs have the upper hand due to that reason alone when it comes to gaming.
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc. Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
I guess what it boils down to is what kind of games..are there any static images and how many hours will he be playing these games for...when my mates are over a gaming session can last many many hours and the last thing i would want is a permenant health bar burnt into my screen...football games have a little overhead view of the field at the bottom which is permenant, shooters are the worst as they will always have a HUD or a symbol of a gun or ammo clip somewhere or another on the screen...
When it comes to clouding if you are not happy with the set you can take it back to the retailer as it is not your fault, but screen burn due to gaming wont be covered in manufacturers warranty. LCDs have the upper hand due to that reason alone when it comes to gaming.
professorhat
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Erm... I guess I'm not getting my point across. I wouldn't ever say, "You want an LCD for games". Nor would I say "You want a plasma for SD TV viewing".
Instead, it makes more sense to look at the relative strengths and weaknesses of the TVs available at the time, especially considering the size of TV that's needed, plus accounting for the viewing distance. So, for ultimate gaming on a 42" set, the best TV recommendation might be a Sony such and such model and a Panasonic such and such. Or, on the other hand, SD TV viewing is really important so check out this Samsung such and such model. Etc. Etc.
The main point of all of this is, at no point am I saying, "For that, you need to have a plasma". The technology which drives the set is not important, just the result of that technology i.e. the picture quality.
Hopefully this makes my point a bit clearer...
Instead, it makes more sense to look at the relative strengths and weaknesses of the TVs available at the time, especially considering the size of TV that's needed, plus accounting for the viewing distance. So, for ultimate gaming on a 42" set, the best TV recommendation might be a Sony such and such model and a Panasonic such and such. Or, on the other hand, SD TV viewing is really important so check out this Samsung such and such model. Etc. Etc.
The main point of all of this is, at no point am I saying, "For that, you need to have a plasma". The technology which drives the set is not important, just the result of that technology i.e. the picture quality.
Hopefully this makes my point a bit clearer...
Ginder:professorhat:But I've been using plasma for gaming for over 3 years now and have not got screen burn. So you might as well say, I'd like to get an LCD, but I'm worried about the risk of 'clouding'...
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc. Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
I guess what it boils down to is what kind of games..are there any static images and how many hours will he be playing these games for...when my mates are over a gaming session can last many many hours and the last thing i would want is a permenant health bar burnt into my screen...football games have a little overhead view of the field at the bottom which is permenant, shooters are the worst as they will always have a HUD or a symbol of a gun or ammo clip somewhere or another on the screen...
When it comes to clouding if you are not happy with the set you can take it back to the retailer as it is not your fault, but screen burn due to gaming wont be covered in manufacturers warranty. LCDs have the upper hand due to that reason alone when it comes to gaming.
At the risk of sounding like a parrot, screen burn is very very rare these days unless you try to create it!
I game for many hours at a time, 8+ has been known and with no problems. And how about channel logos, they're static images. If we follow your logic then no one should ever by a plasma for TV viewing either and thats where they excel!
R
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc. Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
I guess what it boils down to is what kind of games..are there any static images and how many hours will he be playing these games for...when my mates are over a gaming session can last many many hours and the last thing i would want is a permenant health bar burnt into my screen...football games have a little overhead view of the field at the bottom which is permenant, shooters are the worst as they will always have a HUD or a symbol of a gun or ammo clip somewhere or another on the screen...
When it comes to clouding if you are not happy with the set you can take it back to the retailer as it is not your fault, but screen burn due to gaming wont be covered in manufacturers warranty. LCDs have the upper hand due to that reason alone when it comes to gaming.
At the risk of sounding like a parrot, screen burn is very very rare these days unless you try to create it!
I game for many hours at a time, 8+ has been known and with no problems. And how about channel logos, they're static images. If we follow your logic then no one should ever by a plasma for TV viewing either and thats where they excel!
R
I'm still in the process of looking for a new box my self and gaming is a concern. How ever looking into things more (which I'm generally finding off putting with everything as someone will always say something bad about one tech over the other).
ÿYou can get image retention with an LCD but you need the same image for a quite some time as I noticed it on one of works computer displays. But interestingly I found this quote onÿhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphor_burn-in
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"LCD-type displays are also susceptiable to permanent burn-in, but generally less so than plasma-type displays. In the case of LCDs, the mechanics of the generally transitentimage persistenceÿbecome so severe that pixels permanently lose their ability to return to their relaxed state. All major LCD manufacturers' warranties exclude coverage for burn-in (permanent image persistance) as a result."
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One thing that has got me re-thinking the whole LCD - Plasma option is that plasmas suffer (when and if they do) from burn-in due to uneven ageing of the phosphors - correct.?
ÿSo my daft question is why hasn't my 8 year old Sony CRT - which also usesÿphosphors for display, and has had HEAVY game sessions on it - ever shown signs of burn in.......
ÿ
ÿ
ÿYou can get image retention with an LCD but you need the same image for a quite some time as I noticed it on one of works computer displays. But interestingly I found this quote onÿhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphor_burn-in
ÿ------------------
"LCD-type displays are also susceptiable to permanent burn-in, but generally less so than plasma-type displays. In the case of LCDs, the mechanics of the generally transitentimage persistenceÿbecome so severe that pixels permanently lose their ability to return to their relaxed state. All major LCD manufacturers' warranties exclude coverage for burn-in (permanent image persistance) as a result."
ÿ------------------
One thing that has got me re-thinking the whole LCD - Plasma option is that plasmas suffer (when and if they do) from burn-in due to uneven ageing of the phosphors - correct.?
ÿSo my daft question is why hasn't my 8 year old Sony CRT - which also usesÿphosphors for display, and has had HEAVY game sessions on it - ever shown signs of burn in.......
ÿ
ÿ
hifi_nut:Ginder:professorhat:But I've been using plasma for gaming for over 3 years now and have not got screen burn. So you might as well say, I'd like to get an LCD, but I'm worried about the risk of 'clouding'...
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc. Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
I guess what it boils down to is what kind of games..are there any static images and how many hours will he be playing these games for...when my mates are over a gaming session can last many many hours and the last thing i would want is a permenant health bar burnt into my screen...football games have a little overhead view of the field at the bottom which is permenant, shooters are the worst as they will always have a HUD or a symbol of a gun or ammo clip somewhere or another on the screen...
When it comes to clouding if you are not happy with the set you can take it back to the retailer as it is not your fault, but screen burn due to gaming wont be covered in manufacturers warranty. LCDs have the upper hand due to that reason alone when it comes to gaming.
At the risk of sounding like a parrot, screen burn is very very rare these days unless you try to create it! I game for many hours at a time, 8+ has been known and with no problems. And how about channel logos, they're static images. If we follow your logic then no one should ever by a plasma for TV viewing either and thats where they excel! R
Channel logos arent all static, if you look closely at skysports logo it moves around abit
Im not saying dont buy a plasma, i myself am looking for a plasma as the main TV to watch movies on. I still think when it come to gaming you must very careful, its just toooo expensive of an item to risk such a thing on. Just my opinion.
This is my point - both technologies have their plus and their minus sides and you should buy the TV that fits your needs. So you want a TV for just standard Freeview, buy a TV with the best Freeview tuner. You want a TV mainly for Blu-Ray, buy the one with the best Blu-Ray picture etc. etc. Whether that TV is an LCD or a plasma set should be immaterial.
I guess what it boils down to is what kind of games..are there any static images and how many hours will he be playing these games for...when my mates are over a gaming session can last many many hours and the last thing i would want is a permenant health bar burnt into my screen...football games have a little overhead view of the field at the bottom which is permenant, shooters are the worst as they will always have a HUD or a symbol of a gun or ammo clip somewhere or another on the screen...
When it comes to clouding if you are not happy with the set you can take it back to the retailer as it is not your fault, but screen burn due to gaming wont be covered in manufacturers warranty. LCDs have the upper hand due to that reason alone when it comes to gaming.
At the risk of sounding like a parrot, screen burn is very very rare these days unless you try to create it! I game for many hours at a time, 8+ has been known and with no problems. And how about channel logos, they're static images. If we follow your logic then no one should ever by a plasma for TV viewing either and thats where they excel! R
Channel logos arent all static, if you look closely at skysports logo it moves around abit
Im not saying dont buy a plasma, i myself am looking for a plasma as the main TV to watch movies on. I still think when it come to gaming you must very careful, its just toooo expensive of an item to risk such a thing on. Just my opinion.
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