Hi All, My friend and I have decided to buy one each of these 2 systems. Where can we get the best deals for them? Would greatly appreciate it if you can kindly point me to the dealers selling them.
Thanks a bunch
Thanks a bunch
Where to get the best deals for B&W MT30 and KEF 3005SE?
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Regards dealers, it all really depends where you're located?
I'm in Glasgow and have had good service from both Sevenoaks and HIFI Corner.
Regards price my advice is to remember that you don't need to pay the RRP and to haggle.
I recently purchased the MT30s and after making a few calls (and sending some emails) got about £350.00 off the price.
In my case I called one dealer and said that I was looking to get the MT30s and intimated that my best price so far was £1400; within minutes they were willing to sell me the items at this price.
Now that I knew what price I could get them for, I emailed a dealer close to me telling them that I was looking to buy the MT30s and that my best price was £1400, but that I was interested in using their company (due to location) but only if we could get the price closer to £1200.
The response I got was favourable and this company offered me ex-demo units for £1250. I then emailed another company telling them that my best price I could get the MT30s for was £1250 and after a few more calls they were willing to match this price for a brand new set.
In the end I purchased the ex-demo set due to the level of service I had received and the waranty that I was being offered (full 5 years).
You have to treat bartering for a better price as part of the game. Get a demo of the speakers you're interested in and then make a couple of calls. You need to be realistic about how low you try to push the price but get it right and there are some good savings to make.
In my case I decided that £1250 was a fair price to pay but I'm sure I could have pushed the price a little lower (or got some speaker cable etc. thrown in) if I hadn't wanted the speakers so badly.
I'm in Glasgow and have had good service from both Sevenoaks and HIFI Corner.
Regards price my advice is to remember that you don't need to pay the RRP and to haggle.
I recently purchased the MT30s and after making a few calls (and sending some emails) got about £350.00 off the price.
In my case I called one dealer and said that I was looking to get the MT30s and intimated that my best price so far was £1400; within minutes they were willing to sell me the items at this price.
Now that I knew what price I could get them for, I emailed a dealer close to me telling them that I was looking to buy the MT30s and that my best price was £1400, but that I was interested in using their company (due to location) but only if we could get the price closer to £1200.
The response I got was favourable and this company offered me ex-demo units for £1250. I then emailed another company telling them that my best price I could get the MT30s for was £1250 and after a few more calls they were willing to match this price for a brand new set.
In the end I purchased the ex-demo set due to the level of service I had received and the waranty that I was being offered (full 5 years).
You have to treat bartering for a better price as part of the game. Get a demo of the speakers you're interested in and then make a couple of calls. You need to be realistic about how low you try to push the price but get it right and there are some good savings to make.
In my case I decided that £1250 was a fair price to pay but I'm sure I could have pushed the price a little lower (or got some speaker cable etc. thrown in) if I hadn't wanted the speakers so badly.
Frank Harvey
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Just be careful when using a dealer for demos and then purchasing elsewhere - there's only so many times you can get away with it before you find a demo a little harder to arrange.......obviously this applies to those persistent ones.
I think most people would rather buy from the place that they demo in but the price is the thing. I don't mind getting a deal and on gear this costly there is still something in it for the dealer. But 250 pounds off list..... in Scotland of all places (kidding).. is not to be sniffed at.
However most sales staff are realists and will negotiate.
The thing I hate is people who lie about the price of what they've been offered. Stood next to a bloke doing this in RS in Cambridge and had to walk away.
However most sales staff are realists and will negotiate.
The thing I hate is people who lie about the price of what they've been offered. Stood next to a bloke doing this in RS in Cambridge and had to walk away.
In my case the dealer I demoed the kit with was the last person who responded to say they would match the £1250. The deal came a little late in the day otherwise I'd have happily spent my money there.
One issue I have with the whole "game" though is that on the day I demoed the kit I was told that the price was £1575 and that there was no room for negotiation. This as you can see from my story above is uterly untrue.
Had we got anywhere near £1250 on the day of my demo I'd have whipped out my credit card on the spot.
If only you (by you I mean HIFI dealers in general) advertised your best price the buyer would know they weren't paying over the odds for something they could get cheaper elsewhere.
One issue I have with the whole "game" though is that on the day I demoed the kit I was told that the price was £1575 and that there was no room for negotiation. This as you can see from my story above is uterly untrue.
Had we got anywhere near £1250 on the day of my demo I'd have whipped out my credit card on the spot.
If only you (by you I mean HIFI dealers in general) advertised your best price the buyer would know they weren't paying over the odds for something they could get cheaper elsewhere.
But 'they' would argue that they'd go out of business ! I have always preferred the pile em high sell 'em cheap marketing technique adopted by RS when they first opened, but the internet has ended that.
Most consumers know that RRP s aren't worthy of note and to expect 10% off at least but t'interweb has shown how cheap things could be. If there were no overheads that is !
Most consumers know that RRP s aren't worthy of note and to expect 10% off at least but t'interweb has shown how cheap things could be. If there were no overheads that is !
Tks QWERTY69.
Reading these varied opinions, I think no one wants to spend the time and effort to shop around. The issue is that I just don't know what should be the fair price for that particular product. Some manufacturers just put up a high RRP and give significant discount like 30%. Some manufacturers opt for a firmed price with very minor discount like 5%.
That is why I am asking you all what price you have bought your MT30 and 3005SE since these seem to be 2 of the most popular sets so at least i have some references.
Thanks indeed
Reading these varied opinions, I think no one wants to spend the time and effort to shop around. The issue is that I just don't know what should be the fair price for that particular product. Some manufacturers just put up a high RRP and give significant discount like 30%. Some manufacturers opt for a firmed price with very minor discount like 5%.
That is why I am asking you all what price you have bought your MT30 and 3005SE since these seem to be 2 of the most popular sets so at least i have some references.
Thanks indeed
PNR Audio/Video up at Tottenham Court Rd did me the MT-30s in White (Only place I could find it in white), and as a 7.1 system for 1460 quid including delivery. Basic 5.1 was 1275 pounds I believe.
Frank Harvey
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Big Chris:PNR Audio/Video up at Tottenham Court Rd did me the MT-30s in White (Only place I could find it in white), and as a 7.1 system for 1460 quid including delivery. Hmmm.......funny - B&W have a strict no mail order policy regarding their entire range......if they find out they'll be in trouble......
It wasn't actually mail order.
I went to the store and heard them (Not as a full surround set-up, but enough to get a feel for the sound), and they had the white in stock, so I haggled a bit, paid for them, and they delivered them to my home a few days later.
I went to the store and heard them (Not as a full surround set-up, but enough to get a feel for the sound), and they had the white in stock, so I haggled a bit, paid for them, and they delivered them to my home a few days later.
Frank Harvey
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It's a bit annoying really, as there are quite few A/V stores not far from home, but none had the MT30 in white. Black and silver everywhere, but no white.
So everyone who says, "Use it, or lose it" with regards to local stores. The stores should try their best to keep a full range of kit in stock.
So everyone who says, "Use it, or lose it" with regards to local stores. The stores should try their best to keep a full range of kit in stock.
Frank Harvey
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Keeping a large range of kit is quite hard to do. Also factor in on top of that keeping those products in stock, including many different colours of speakers, it's a huge financial committment. You have to be able to turn over all those different products and finishes regularly, otherwise you'll be left with a lot of unwanted stock which you have to reduce, which affects profitability, and sometimes needs to be sold at a loss if it's something nobody wants.
Most stores aren't able to carry the sort of display and stock levels they used to due to internet competition, amongst other things. I think we're quite lucky with the range we have on display, but there's no way we could keep everything we have on our internet site on display in store. We do try and keep most of it in stock, which most people won't believe the financial needs and storage needs for all that.
There are many products like Monitor Audio, M&K, and products from the IAG group including Quad and Audiolab that can be had next day when ordered before a reasonable time. This is a big help with floorstanding speakers that take up a lot of room, especially when they come in 5 or 6 different finishes.
We try!
Most stores aren't able to carry the sort of display and stock levels they used to due to internet competition, amongst other things. I think we're quite lucky with the range we have on display, but there's no way we could keep everything we have on our internet site on display in store. We do try and keep most of it in stock, which most people won't believe the financial needs and storage needs for all that.
There are many products like Monitor Audio, M&K, and products from the IAG group including Quad and Audiolab that can be had next day when ordered before a reasonable time. This is a big help with floorstanding speakers that take up a lot of room, especially when they come in 5 or 6 different finishes.
We try!
Fairy nuff
Seriously though, it's good to hear from 'the other side' regarding transactions & trading.
I guess the small independants are one thing, but Sevenoaks were frustrating that the 3 nearest me never had the white MT30s. I fully understand the franchise thing, but I would have thought that they could help themselves out by each having a few variances within their 'core' stock to cater for stuff that's slightly out of the ordinary, or for those times when a manufacturer has 18 different finishes to their speakers!
BTW. Where are you guys?
Seriously though, it's good to hear from 'the other side' regarding transactions & trading.
I guess the small independants are one thing, but Sevenoaks were frustrating that the 3 nearest me never had the white MT30s. I fully understand the franchise thing, but I would have thought that they could help themselves out by each having a few variances within their 'core' stock to cater for stuff that's slightly out of the ordinary, or for those times when a manufacturer has 18 different finishes to their speakers!
BTW. Where are you guys?
Big Chris: Sevenoaks were frustrating that the 3 nearest me never had the white MT30s.
I didn't even know they came in white ! May have affected my choice if I'd known as would've suited my gaff perfectly.
Oh well.
I didn't even know they came in white ! May have affected my choice if I'd known as would've suited my gaff perfectly.
Oh well.
Frank Harvey
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FrankHarveyHiFi:Big Chris:BTW. Where are you guys?We're based in Coventry, between Brimingham and Leamington.
Didn't realise otherwise I'd have bought my 606 there. Got it from SuperFi, across the road
Didn't realise otherwise I'd have bought my 606 there. Got it from SuperFi, across the road
andyb190:
Big Chris:Shame. You may have even discovered the MT30 in white too!
Yeah, ok, rub it in !
LOL!
Big Chris:Shame. You may have even discovered the MT30 in white too!
Yeah, ok, rub it in !
LOL!
Frank Harvey
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andyb190: Didn't realise otherwise I'd have bought my 606 there. Got it from SuperFi, across the road
Shame on you! We were probably cheaper too.......
It was a spontaneous thing at the time they were selling at RRP everywhere. Thats what I got it for so no complaints really. Still, sorry about that.
Anywy, how come your M Cube stands are the price they are ?
Anywy, how come your M Cube stands are the price they are ?
FctCJ:
Hi All, My friend and I have decided to buy one each of these 2 systems. Where can we get the best deals for them? Would greatly appreciate it if you can kindly point me to the dealers selling them.
Thanks a bunch
Hi,
I'm looking to get the MT30's as well, and the best price I've found (from various calls) to dealers is £1,400. Have you managed to do any better??
May be if we say we're getting 2 sets then we may be able to get a bigger discount (purchasing power and all that!).
Let me know.
Ta
Vin
Hi All, My friend and I have decided to buy one each of these 2 systems. Where can we get the best deals for them? Would greatly appreciate it if you can kindly point me to the dealers selling them.
Thanks a bunch
Hi,
I'm looking to get the MT30's as well, and the best price I've found (from various calls) to dealers is £1,400. Have you managed to do any better??
May be if we say we're getting 2 sets then we may be able to get a bigger discount (purchasing power and all that!).
Let me know.
Ta
Vin
Like I said earlier. I paid £1460 for mine, but that was 7.1 not the standard 5.1 and that also included delivery.
Basic 5.1 delivered was about £1270. Buying two systems should net you an even better deal.
Where do you live Vin? If you're a Londoner, you really should take a trip to Tottenham Court Rd, although you're unlikely to get a full 5.1 demo.
Basic 5.1 delivered was about £1270. Buying two systems should net you an even better deal.
Where do you live Vin? If you're a Londoner, you really should take a trip to Tottenham Court Rd, although you're unlikely to get a full 5.1 demo.
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