what did everyone think of the knosti antistat?

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Recieved the knosti kit from e bay yesterday and tested it out on a few lps.

Bit fiddly at first. Messy pouring system and the drying racks got a few sharp edges to look out for, but....

Played them tonight and for twenty quid it gets the thumbs up. It wont get rid of all your pops from record defects but their is no residue , only dust free static free shiny plastic.

An old banshees lp came up nice from being unplayable and a new press cocteau twins album is a much clearer presentation. All surface noise gone.

Any one else got their new toy?
 
Yup ...fantastic recommendation and a steal at the price !! (thanks to pwiles1968 for the headsup on the deal!)

Quite deceptive I think ... on first appearances looks like something that years ago would have been made by Ronco 😉 and would have turned out to be quite naff ...but its actually a really well designed simple piece of kit that works brilliantly.

What struck me was all the little design features built in to make the whole process of cleaning, safely removing, drying your records and recycling the cleaning fluid completely fuss free - definitely gets my vote
 
75/25 (or thereabouts) distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, both from boots. A splash of (currently) Ilfotol photographic wetting agent (which is what I'll try replacing with dishwasher rinse aid).
 
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I see what you did there...

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JohnDuncan:fatboyslimfast:Sort of. It's the avatar he made earlier...

I see what you did there...

Looks as if the operation went well ......
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That's my school photo from 1976...
 
JohnDuncan: (which is what I'll try replacing with dishwasher rinse aid).

Let us know how that goes I still have not used the stuff that came with the antist so have not started experimenting yet, I have also bee told that fabric conditioner has good antistatic properties but it does seem like it has too much other rubbish in there.

WRT to the rinse aid been told it is also good for washing the car, wash as usual but put a few drops in the water you use to rinse, I do not wash the car much so not tried this yet.
 
JohnDuncan:75/25 (or thereabouts) distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, both from boots. A splash of (currently) Ilfotol photographic wetting agent (which is what I'll try replacing with dishwasher rinse aid).

I had a look at some of this in the supermarket just now (Sad? Moi? I was buying dishwasher tablets!), it says it's only 5-15% non-ionic surfactant (bit worrying they can't narrow it down any futher than that), plus "other ingredients" but no specifics, might be worth checking that out first perhaps?
 
Got my antistat a couple of weeks ago and I'd recomend it to anyone starting out on vinyl like me, especially if you're buying cheap records from charity shops and car boots. It took a nat king cole record made almost unplayable by a covering of sticky gunk to an as new sounding condition. It isn't a miracle worker, scratches are permanent! If a record is really messy it can take a couple of runs to get the most out of it and the design is a bit flimsy. Not too sure about the filter system's ability to clean the fluid well, i've run about 30-40 records through the fluid that comes with it and it's looking like pond water even after filtering before and after cleaning, it'd be nice to know how long everyone keeps their fluid until they replace and if anyone's got any good ideas for better filter material (coffee filter paper?...)

So a 4 out of 5 from me, the cheapest effective way of cleaning records.
 
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JohnDuncan:75/25 (or thereabouts) distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, both from boots. A splash of (currently) Ilfotol photographic wetting agent (which is what I'll try replacing with dishwasher rinse aid).

I had a look at some of this in the supermarket just now (Sad? Moi? I was buying dishwasher tablets!), it says it's only 5-15% non-ionic surfactant (bit worrying they can't narrow it down any futher than that), plus "other ingredients" but no specifics, might be worth checking that out first perhaps?

Maybe. The percentage content of polyglycol ether (the nonionic surfactant) in Ilfotol is between 1-5% as well...
 
JohnDuncan:the_lhc:
JohnDuncan:75/25 (or thereabouts) distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, both from boots. A splash of (currently) Ilfotol photographic wetting agent (which is what I'll try replacing with dishwasher rinse aid).

I had a look at some of this in the supermarket just now (Sad? Moi? I was buying dishwasher tablets!), it says it's only 5-15% non-ionic surfactant (bit worrying they can't narrow it down any futher than that), plus "other ingredients" but no specifics, might be worth checking that out first perhaps?

Maybe. The percentage content of polyglycol ether (the nonionic surfactant) in Ilfotol is between 1-5% as well...

Hmmm, so the dishwasher stuff could be up to three times more concentrated, not sure if that matters or not, best test it on a Black Lace record...
 
JohnDuncan:75/25 (or thereabouts) distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, both from boots. A splash of (currently) Ilfotol photographic wetting agent (which is what I'll try replacing with dishwasher rinse aid).

Hi John - Have you tried out your solution with rinse aid yet please?

I just got a Knosti - and I wonder how many records I will be able to clean efficiently with the Knosti fluid before I need to replace it.

And any thoughts on the best replacements for the filter papers?
 
No I just sold my turntable so it's not top of the agenda right now. personally, I found that trying to use the papers to filter solution back into the bottle was a hit and miss affair, and I ended up with dirty solution back inthe bottle. So I stopped doing that and started making my own solution so that I could use fresh every time.
 
Thanks for the reply John

I think then that when my Knosti fluid gets mucky I'll make some up using rinse agent - and give it a go.

Unless others have other tips
 
JohnDuncan:75/25 (or thereabouts) distilled water and isopropyl alcohol, both from boots. A splash of (currently) Ilfotol photographic wetting agent (which is what I'll try replacing with dishwasher rinse aid).

Boots no longer sell Isopropyl alcohol. Something to do with needing a special licence to sell it, which they dont have. I tried 4 branches and got the same answer. Can anyone suggest a supplier please....
 
Isopropyl Alcohol is also available from Maplin Electronics

Note: The FAQ's on the webpage for it also includes questions about its use for cleaning vinyl records.
 
For Isopropyl Alcohol check out Ebay . You can get 5 litres for about £7.00 . However , they sting you for the same amount for postage .

Very few chemists stock it these days and you have to pay between £4 and £6 for one litre .

Nick
 
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