What beats a plasma?

[Masher964]

I still have a Pioneer 60" plasma and have yet to be tempted to change because I have not seen anything approaching the cinematic quality of the plasma. Have I missed something? Brightness seems to be the 'thing' these days but it's the deep blacks and smooth cinematic quality of the Pioneer plasma I love. Thoughts and proposals welcome.

 

[Gel Man]

I still have a Pioneer 60" plasma and have yet to be tempted to change because I have not seen anything approaching the cinematic quality of the plasma. Have I missed something? Brightness seems to be the 'thing' these days but it's the deep blacks and smooth cinematic quality of the Pioneer plasma I love. Thoughts and proposals welcome.

What do you want to use your new TV for eg sources? And a bright room or dark room? And is there anything wrong with your Pioneer because you say you still love it?

 

[Masher964]

Single source - Sky Q. Usual apps used. Room is 'average' for light with mid summer obviously being the hardest. Projector used for Films, TV used as a quick swith on and view. No games use. TV not in direct light or backlit by a window.

 

[Gel Man]

Single source - Sky Q. Usual apps used. Room is 'average' for light with mid summer obviously being the hardest. Projector used for Films, TV used as a quick swith on and view. No games use. TV not in direct light or backlit by a window.

Grass in that case is not always greener for some people. I would demo the LG G5, Samsung S95F, Sony Bravia 8 part 2 and perhaps the Sony Bravia 9 Mini LED and then you have the new RGB Mini LED TVs coming out this year I personally would wait for them.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

OLED is better than plasma in every respect. Had Pioneer and 2xPanasonic versions of the latter, and the LG OLED is sooo much better it still sometimes surprises me. Blacks couldn't be blacker, motion is better, detail obviously, and HDR adds as much as higher resolution.

If what you've seen elsewhere hasn't included OLED it should, and if it has, those sets must have been poorly set up.

 

[Gel Man]

And what size TV would you like and your budget?

 

[abacus]

You are used to plasma and like all things once you get used to it to find any of the competition less than inspiring, however if you compare it to the real world you will find many of the competition actually gives a much more accurate and realistic picture of the real world then your plasma.

The same applies to audio, you get used to a sound and find anything else not as good, when in reality a lot of the competition are actually more realistic.

Bill

 

[Jasonovich]

OLED is better than plasma in every respect. Had Pioneer and 2xPanasonic versions of the latter, and the LG OLED is sooo much better it still sometimes surprises me. Blacks couldn't be blacker, motion is better, detail obviously, and HDR adds as much as higher resolution.

If what you've seen elsewhere hasn't included OLED it should, and if it has, those sets must have been poorly set up.

Also, the form factor, very thin Oled panels. So much better than bulky plasma. There is one advantage plasma still has, that is saturation.
I stand corrected but I don't think Oled saturation isn't as good?

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Also, the form factor, very thin Oled panels. So much better than bulky plasma. There is one advantage plasma still has, that is saturation.
I stand corrected but I don't think Oled saturation isn't good?

No idea - don't really know what that is! But I see nothing better in the two plasmas we still have in the house.

 

[Jasonovich]

No idea - don't really know what that is! But I see nothing better in the two plasmas we still have in the house.

I was referring to the naturalness of the colours.
Looking into it further, Oled has a wider gamut of colours, also, Oled colour cells are individually lit allowing superior colour accuracy.
I was wrong about that, Oleds clearly has the superior saturation.

Google AI definition.
Colour saturation refers to the intensity or purity of a colour in your TV's display, and adjusting it properly can significantly enhance your viewing experience.

 

[davidf]

I'd definitely go and view some potentials before spending any money - plasma were excellent in many ways, especially the Pioneers and Fujitsus, and you may find some aspects of new TVs don't compare. It's all down to what you look for in a picture I guess. For some it's lifelike colours, others it's sharpness, others it's black level and contrast, etc etc.

 

[Al ears]

I still have a Pioneer 60" plasma and have yet to be tempted to change because I have not seen anything approaching the cinematic quality of the plasma. Have I missed something? Brightness seems to be the 'thing' these days but it's the deep blacks and smooth cinematic quality of the Pioneer plasma I love. Thoughts and proposals welcome.

If you're happy with your Pioneer keep it.
No point in spending good money on something that may be slightly better.....

 

[jordanfx]

If you're happy with your Pioneer keep it.
No point in spending good money on something that may be slightly better.....

just upgraded my panasonic plasma to a sony bravia 8 fantastic picture on this oled and motion is superb.but it was time to go 4k.sad to say goodbye to the trusty plasma though.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

No point in spending good money on something that may be slightly better

I'd argue that the differences are considerably bigger than slight, but obviously this is all in the eye (and wallet) of the beholder!

(I think sometimes people ask questions like this more because they hope to be told that what they have hasn't really been surpassed, and to say so would be a fib.)

 

[Jasonovich]

just upgraded my panasonic plasma to a sony bravia 8 fantastic picture on this oled and motion is superb.but it was time to go 4k.sad to say goodbye to the trusty plasma though.

It is sad many of the prestige brands abandoned the plasma ship. Think what they could have achieved with the technology with further development and investment.

 

[Masher964]

just upgraded my panasonic plasma to a sony bravia 8 fantastic picture on this oled and motion is superb.but it was time to go 4k.sad to say goodbye to the trusty plasma though.

It is hard not to love the plasmas but they are all approaching 10+ years old now and are run on older technology. I have been having handshake issues with my system which I HOPE is amp driven (because I just upgraded my amp but have not yet received it). If it's not the amp, then it's most likely the oldest piece of tech in the system - my plasma. Hence raising the question.
It is interesting how plasmas divide an audience - those who love them and those who like the progress of technology over any admiration for the plasma. With screens, personally I find shop viewing of limited value because my home environment is so far removed from the shop store environment (natural vs artificial light, light intensity, distraction...). Hence it's helpful to get opinions on future replacementfrom you guys (just in case...) Thanks.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

It is interesting how plasmas divide an audience - those who love them and those who like the progress of technology over any admiration for the plasma.

There was another member who kept insisting that plasma at its peak was the best screen tech yet made. Having solid experience of both over many years, I have to keep pointing out that this isn't true. I loved my plasma sets back in the day, but am agnostic in terms of screen tech. It could be powered by carrots for all I care, as long as it produces the (best) goods. The more realistic levels of brightness in an OLED (and other new screen types) can take a little getting used to, but it didn't take me long - and having done so, the two plasma sets we still have look pretty flat and dull in comparison - a bit like looking at a photo taken many years ago in comparison with one from yesterday.

I genuinely see nothing that any of our three plasmas did/does as well as my present OLED (including black depth, smoothness of motion and the feeling of looking 'through' the screen into the image), and that's before you add 4k and HDR into the mix.

I suspect I've done this to death, so will now shut my trap!

 

[Al ears]

There was another member who kept insisting that plasma at its peak was the best screen tech yet made. Having solid experience of both over many years, I have to keep pointing out that this isn't true. I loved my plasma sets back in the day, but am agnostic in terms of screen tech. It could be powered by carrots for all I care, as long as it produces the (best) goods. The more realistic levels of brightness in an OLED (and other new screen types) can take a little getting used to, but it didn't take me long - and having done so, the two plasma sets we still have look pretty flat and dull in comparison - a bit like looking at a photo taken many years ago in comparison with one from yesterday.

I genuinely see nothing that any of our three plasmas did/does as well as my present OLED (including black depth, smoothness of motion and the feeling of looking 'through' the screen into the image), and that's before you add 4k and HDR into the mix.

I suspect I've done this to death, so will now shut my trap!

Hear, hear.
I would suggest that the reason plasma has had its day is down to one, or two simple facts.
Modern technology is better, and cheaper.
That said, if my old plasma set was still going I would still be using it......

 

[nopiano]

I can’t add anything about relative qualities, but I wonder how much longer a plasma screen will last. I acquired a very nice LG LED set from a relative that was a top 2011 model. Three years ago we replaced it and passed it on, gratis. Within a year it blew up and wasn’t repairable - though I’m not sure why.

Maybe get an idea of successors and be ready to chose if the end comes, or maybe when the prices drop, as they always do.