Weird that so many audiophile threads are argumentative

[daytona600]

Music & Hifi cover vast range of tastes and opinions
One might want to stream Coldplay to a blutooth speaker & the 2nd might want to play miles davis record with tube amps & horn speakers

 

[Jasonovich]

Music & Hifi cover vast range of tastes and opinions
One might want to stream Coldplay to a blutooth speaker & the 2nd might want to play miles davis record with tube amps & horn speakers

ColdPlay????
No No No No!

 

[twinkletoes]

Music & Hifi cover vast range of tastes and opinions
One might want to stream Coldplay to a blutooth speaker & the 2nd might want to play miles davis record with tube amps & horn speakers

You see it in any forum people defend there purchases and brands, its a very tribal thing.
I mean we give advice on this forum but in all honesty do we even have the right to. I can safely say ive owned around 6-7 hifis and surround sound systems in my life time. What advice can I really give people.

Apart from @Jasonovich who seems to own most of richer sounds most here have very limited experience with brands and products even formats.

As the saying goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"

 

[Jasonovich]

You see it in any forum people defend there purchases and brands, its a very tribal thing.
I mean we give advice on this forum but in all honesty do we even have the right to. I can safely say ive owned around 6-7 hifis and surround sound systems in my life time. What advice can I really give people.

Apart from @Jasonovich who seems to own most of richer sounds most here have very limited experience with brands and products even formats.

As the saying goes "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"

Think of it as sharing the love 😃
Take any advice with a big pinch of salt.
Lately, listening to other people's comments, I realise how little I know or is it just they're better in the art of BS ha ha ha.
I think of it as a union of collective minds, I find it humanising when people share their opinions and there are times I just want to disappear into anonymity and listen to other people but almost every time I take the bait 😀

 

[James105]

As long as the doctor doesn't tell you "you might want to advise your family to start thinking about arrangements for your funeral..."

I had this about a month ago,"You've got CLL but don't worry you'll proberly die of a heart attack or a stroke first" And he had a trainee in the room with him.

 

[jjbomber]

Apart from @Jasonovich who seems to own most of richer sounds

Most of Ali Express actually!

 

[Gadusmorhua]

As per the title, why?

I’m a member of other male dominated forums including, musicians forums, RC (radio control ), astronomy, cycling and model engineering, (yes I have too many hobbies) and there is barely a murmur of discord.

People seem so defensive of their choice of HiFi and it seems to be getting worse.

Come on people, it shouldn’t be like this.

I noticed that when I got into Audio, a couple of year's ago. Having said that I've not had a reason to complain, everyone has been very helpful, and I've enjoyed the inevitable differing opinions. Perhaps the demographic of hifi enthusiasts explain things best, but I'm sure your other hobbies are similar, maybe poorer.

I think it is perhaps wrong to classify audio as a hobby. Unless you are making speakers, crosssovers etc you are just a consumer- quite often with money to burn.
All my hobbies involve making stuff and getting out there, to me audio is just sitting on my a*se listening to nice music. Sure, I may occasionally upgrade stuff (though I think I intend to remain at the lower end of hifi), but is reading reviews and buying things a hobby?
I just don't feel the need to be defensive of my gear, or justify it in any way, because if I like what I'm hearing that's good enough for me. Maybe it is a sign of others' insecurities.

 

[Jasonovich]

Most of Ali Express actually!

Yeah true, also Peter Tyson, Amazon, eBay and French company I can't recall the name

 

[abacus]

I noticed that when I got into Audio, a couple of year's ago. Having said that I've not had a reason to complain, everyone has been very helpful, and I've enjoyed the inevitable differing opinions. Perhaps the demographic of hifi enthusiasts explain things best, but I'm sure your other hobbies are similar, maybe poorer.

I think it is perhaps wrong to classify audio as a hobby. Unless you are making speakers, crosssovers etc you are just a consumer- quite often with money to burn.
All my hobbies involve making stuff and getting out there, to me audio is just sitting on my a*se listening to nice music. Sure, I may occasionally upgrade stuff (though I think I intend to remain at the lower end of hifi), but is reading reviews and buying things a hobby?
I just don't feel the need to be defensive of my gear, or justify it in any way, because if I like what I'm hearing that's good enough for me. Maybe it is a sign of others' insecurities.

Here is the definition of hobby https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/hobby
So, listening to music is a hobby, just like reading a book.

Bill

 

[Jasonovich]

I noticed that when I got into Audio, a couple of year's ago. Having said that I've not had a reason to complain, everyone has been very helpful, and I've enjoyed the inevitable differing opinions. Perhaps the demographic of hifi enthusiasts explain things best, but I'm sure your other hobbies are similar, maybe poorer.

I think it is perhaps wrong to classify audio as a hobby. Unless you are making speakers, crosssovers etc you are just a consumer- quite often with money to burn.
All my hobbies involve making stuff and getting out there, to me audio is just sitting on my a*se listening to nice music. Sure, I may occasionally upgrade stuff (though I think I intend to remain at the lower end of hifi), but is reading reviews and buying things a hobby?
I just don't feel the need to be defensive of my gear, or justify it in any way, because if I like what I'm hearing that's good enough for me. Maybe it is a sign of others' insecurities.

I think many of us have a passion for sound, not necessarily music and I think your interpretation of what constitute a hobby is an interesting one.

Back in the 80s I purchased the Edison mono tube amp kit x 2 from WHF. I think cost me £200 for each mono amp. I brought the kit and done some soldiering; It was a "real" hobby then and when Maplin was around I would buy speaker crossovers from them. My carpentry skills was rubbish but that didn't stop me making the speaker cabinets from MDF, no fancy dovetail joints, just glue and nails.

I think the hobby aspect of HiFi today, is experimenting with cabling, tube rolling or replacing the op-amp. Some may argue, listening to HiFi is a hobby. So easy to get pedantic but really, what matters, you get enjoyment from it.

My other hobby is PC building and customisation, much of it is standardise and modular so it's not terribly challenging today. Back when I started everything was vanilla and you had to set the pins correctly on the motherboard but like HiFi industry it has evolved.
Below, is my crazy looking PC, I added touch sensitive orb and mechanised mosquito I got from AliExpress

The desktop market has given way to laptops and the latter has given way to smart phones.

Most people don't want the fuss, want a PC get it from Currys, want a new amp get it online or from your dealership.

 

[podknocker]

I think many of us have a passion for sound, not necessarily music and I think your interpretation of what constitute a hobby is an interesting one.

Back in the 80s I purchased the Edison mono tube amp kit x 2 from WHF. I think cost me £200 for each mono amp. I brought the kit and done some soldiering; It was a "real" hobby then and when Maplin was around I would buy speaker crossovers from them. My carpentry skills was rubbish but that didn't stop me making the speaker cabinets from MDF, no fancy dovetail joints, just glue and nails.

I think the hobby aspect of HiFi today, is experimenting with cabling, tube rolling or replacing the op-amp. Some may argue, listening to HiFi is a hobby. So easy to get pedantic but really, what matters, you get enjoyment from it.

My other hobby is PC building and customisation, much of it is standardise and modular so it's not terribly challenging today. Back when I started everything was vanilla and you had to set the pins correctly on the motherboard but like HiFi industry it has evolved.
Below, is my crazy looking PC, I added touch sensitive orb and mechanised mosquito I got from AliExpress

The desktop market has given way to laptops and the latter has given way to smart phones.

Most people don't want the fuss, want a PC get it from Currys, want a new amp get it online or from your dealership.

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'The desktop market has given way to laptops and the latter has given way to smart phones.'

Not sure that's true Jason. I have all 3 and need all 3 and would never consider trying to experience all my media content using just 1 device. I've worked in IT for 25 years and trends and technologies change, but there isn't a single platform able to do everything, without compromise. I don't care for PC lights and modding and I don't play games, but if you do play games on your PC, I'm sure you'd find the experience much more enjoyable playing the games on your gaming rig and large monitor, rather than an iphone with earphones etc.

 

[Gray]

I've worked in IT for 25 years

😞 Sincere commiserations to you Pod

 

[Jasonovich]

'The desktop market has given way to laptops and the latter has given way to smart phones.'

Not sure that's true Jason. I have all 3 and need all 3 and would never consider trying to experience all my media content using just 1 device. I've worked in IT for 25 years and trends and technologies change, but there isn't a single platform able to do everything, without compromise. I don't care for PC lights and modding and I don't play games, but if you do play games on your PC, I'm sure you'd find the experience much more enjoyable playing the games on your gaming rig and large monitor, rather than an iphone with earphones etc.

Sorry I misphrased it. I didn't mean one making the other obsolete.
I was trying to say more people have a smartphone in their pocket than carrying a laptop and more people work with a laptop than a desktop.
People use them for different things but the younger folk may only have a mobile, for social and music and a console at home for gaming.
I guess it depends how it fits into your own personal lifestyle ☺️