Universal Credit and PiP for old claimants

[Gel Man]

Does anyone know what’s happening to old claimants when you get reviewed for PiP again and will it affect Universal Credit health elements if you only get standard rate or none at all?

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

I get the impression that the purpose of reviews is to reduce the spend, not assess people's needs. If it's older people you are talking about though, my understanding is that your NI history is maintained by being granted PIP, so if they are nearing state pension age at least there should be light at the end of the tunnel if an existing claimant is subsequently denied. No idea about the second part - you might be best off asking citizen's advice.

 

[Angle Poise-Lamp]

you might be best off asking citizen's advice.

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[Gel Man]

Found the answer by switching to Google search engine again:

Existing PIP claimants to be protected from cuts in disability benefits U-turn - Community Care

About 400,000 people will hold onto payments of about £3,800 or £5,700 per year, under Labour disability benefits climbdown

www.communitycare.co.uk

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

I also understand at the last review that PIP claimants had to undergo the benefit was granted for a fixed period of time, after which I am guessing they will become 'new' claimants and face an even tougher assessment.

 

[Gel Man]

I also understand at the last review that PIP claimants had to undergo the benefit was granted for a fixed period of time, after which I am guessing they will become 'new' claimants and face an even tougher assessment.

Where did you hear that from?

 

[Gel Man]

I get the impression that the purpose of reviews is to reduce the spend, not assess people's needs. If it's older people you are talking about though, my understanding is that your NI history is maintained by being granted PIP, so if they are nearing state pension age at least there should be light at the end of the tunnel if an existing claimant is subsequently denied. No idea about the second part - you might be best off asking citizen's advice.

Your National Insurance contributions is not granted through PIP but UC alone.

 

[Gel Man]

I think I might go and talk to citizens advice today where I don’t often go to do Art with other people with mental health problems. Citizens advice always turn up there or at least they used to.

 

[Angle Poise-Lamp]

I think I might go and talk to citizens advice today where I don’t often go to do Art with other people with mental health problems. Citizens advice always turn up there or at least they used to.

There’s a number of ways you can contact them: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/contact-us/

Mind are very helpful too, helped me before now. https://www.mind.org.uk/

 

[Gel Man]

There’s a number of ways you can contact them: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/contact-us/

Mind are very helpful too, helped me before now. https://www.mind.org.uk/

That’s excellent, thanks. I didn’t really want to go up the city today so that is great. Thanks.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Your National Insurance contributions is not granted through PIP but UC alone.

Person I am thinking of gets ESA as well and is definitely getting NI credit - maybe it's the ESA that does it.

I've seen her paperwork showing that PIP was awarded, but that it would be assessed after a fixed period - I think it might have been four years.

 

[Gel Man]

Person I am thinking of gets ESA as well and is definitely getting NI credit - maybe it's the ESA that does it.

I've seen her paperwork showing that PIP was awarded, but that it would be assessed after a fixed period - I think it might have been four years.

Yes, ESA does it for sure.

My pip award was for 10 years but gets reviewed next November. It will be interesting to see what they do now. To be honest I should get the enhanced rate now not the daily rate, so I should be fine when it comes to UC too although I am currently signed off indefinitely for that too, I don’t get reviewed for that any longer.