I have to say that tivo is indeed a very clever box of tricks and vigin have left sky for dead, but how did they manage to put all the clever electronics into such a cheap, nasty box. Whoever is responsible for the casing design on that team needs to be re-briefed. I really would not want that alongside my current kit at all, so come on virgin, take a leaf out of humax's book and re-design, even better quality plastic, or a glossy frontage maybe!