TT advice for newbie

[AC62]

NEW to turn tables and not very knowledgeable about hi fi! I've decided to buy a TT but need advice on what features I should consider. I'd rather buy a decent second hand TT . My budget is £500.
I have a Cyrus 2 amp and Mission speakers.
Questions that come to mind are: is a phono stage needed, is electronic speed change a must or nice to have? I have both 33 and 45s. Some are old and have scratches -could this damage the stylus?
After reading a few posts here, the cartridge seems to be almost as important as the TT?

 

[nads]

Which Cyrus amp?

 

[AC62]

It's a Cyrus Two

 

[nads]

So has a built in MC/MM phono stage.

Speed change can be done fairly easily manually and you can get external electronic speed changes. Just don’t handle the drive belt if external but the TT should have something to aide that.

 

[Al ears]

As @nads says, and yes a good cartridge is vital.
I would avoid playing badly scratched vinyl.

 

[daytona600]

£500 Project or Rega

is electronic speed change a must or nice to have
Yes industry standard on all TTs for 70years & electronic speed control sounds better

 

[Fandango Andy]

NEW to turn tables and not very knowledgeable about hi fi! I've decided to buy a TT but need advice on what features I should consider. I'd rather buy a decent second hand TT . My budget is £500.
I have a Cyrus 2 amp and Mission speakers.
Questions that come to mind are: is a phono stage needed, is electronic speed change a must or nice to have? I have both 33 and 45s. Some are old and have scratches -could this damage the stylus?
After reading a few posts here, the cartridge seems to be almost as important as the TT?

Second hand record players seem to have gotten very expensive. You can get a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon with an Ortofon 2m Red cartridge for £359 from Richer Sounds at the moment. This should fit well with what you have. it does mean manual speed change, buy you can get a speed box to do it at the push of a button if you find you need one. I only play LP's so never use 45.

 

[AC62]

Thanks everyone, very helpful! I'm thinking am I aiming at too high a budget for a TT since a friend said it's not worth paying more than £150 for the set up I've got ie Mission Freedom speakers and Cyrus 2amp. Both ancient but in excellent condition

 

[AC62]

As @nads says, and yes a good cartridge is vital.
I would avoid playing badly scratched vinyl.

Ok, thanks

 

[AC62]

Second hand record players seem to have gotten very expensive. You can get a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon with an Ortofon 2m Red cartridge for £359 from Richer Sounds at the moment. This should fit well with what you have. it does mean manual speed change, buy you can get a speed box to do it at the push of a button if you find you need one. I only play LP's so never use 45.

I'll have a look, probably automatic speed change is not that important tbh

 

[Fandango Andy]

Thanks everyone, very helpful! I'm thinking am I aiming at too high a budget for a TT since a friend said it's not worth paying more than £150 for the set up I've got ie Mission Freedom speakers and Cyrus 2amp. Both ancient but in excellent condition

Yes and no. your system probably still sounds great, don't buy a cheap rubbish record player. A Pro-Ject Primary E for £195 is probably the best budget option. If you can find a decent second hand Pro-Ject or Rega for a fair price that will fit the bill too.

 

[Al ears]

Thanks everyone, very helpful! I'm thinking am I aiming at too high a budget for a TT since a friend said it's not worth paying more than £150 for the set up I've got ie Mission Freedom speakers and Cyrus 2amp. Both ancient but in excellent condition

Your friend is wrong. You'll struggle to find a decent turntable for £150 or less.
And you're certainly going to struggle if you don't know what to do with a second-hand one if you are clueless about vinyl.
If you are not familiar with turntables you will not know a decent second-hand one from a duffer. Buy new.
You cannot do vinyl on the cheap.
Just look at the cost of new LPs....

 

[Links]

Save up and get a Technics 1200 . It will be a good investment and, if well set up and looked after it will last you a good long time, sound good and give minimal problems.

 

[Al ears]

Save up and get a Technics 1200 . It will be a good investment and, if well set up and looked after it will last you a good long time, sound good and give minimal problems.

Only a good idea if it has be set up by competent person and you can actually pick it up yourself.
As the OP doesn't appear to have much of a clue buying something that doesn't require setting up seems more sensible.

 

[Links]

Only a good idea if it has be set up by competent person and you can actually pick it up yourself.
As the OP doesn't appear to have much of a clue buying something that doesn't require setting up seems more sensible.

Not hard to set up and can be readily obtained from many places like amazon well packed so it can be easily transported!..so I can't really see your point.

 

[Al ears]

Not hard to set up and can be readily obtained from many places like amazon well packed so it can be easily transported!..so I can't really see your point.

Agree, not hard if you have some idea to what you are doing in the first place, compared to some others but not if you are a complete newbie.
Too many things to go wrong.
If it does come from an online retailer even worse.
A turntable needs to be set up with cartridge and aligned and calibrated ready for immediate use for a newbie.
That and the fact he isn't going to get one for anything near his budget.
A pointless suggestion in my opinion.
that's my point......

 

[Links]

Agree, not hard if you have some idea to what you are doing in the first place, compared to some others but not if you are a complete newbie.
Too many things to go wrong.
That and the fact he isn't going to get one for anything near his budget.
A pointless suggestion in my opinion.

I find this comment child like. If you read then I say SAV E !!!! If you live in a small comfortable world like yours, then you don't develop. If you have a small mentality and reject anyone else ideas I pity you. If you end up with an insult then clearly....you are not worth the paper you are written on. I worry....... the comment you make is so typical of many on fora like this , smug dismissive and know it all.

 

[Al ears]

I find this comment child like. If you read then I say SAV E !!!! If you live in a small comfortable world like yours, then you don't develop. If you have a small mentality and reject anyone else ideas I pity you. If you end up with an insult then clearly....you are not worth the paper you are written on. I worry....... the comment you make is so typical of many on fora like this , smug dismissive and know it all.

I just attempt to answer the OPs question, I don't predict what they might be able to afford years down the road.
and for what it's worth I don't live in a small comfortable world, very presumptuous of you to think so.
And yes, I do know a lot about turntables and people, I also try to be helpful.....
Now I suggest you might be very careful with your reply sir.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

I find this comment child like. If you read then I say SAV E !!!! If you live in a small comfortable world like yours, then you don't develop. If you have a small mentality and reject anyone else ideas I pity you. If you end up with an insult then clearly....you are not worth the paper you are written on. I worry....... the comment you make is so typical of many on fora like this , smug dismissive and know it all.

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