This fuse costs £4200

[shadders]

It's the icing on the cake.

....Meanwhile, over on the Wam forum, somebody posted that he's listened to a £200 fuse.
He thought that any improvement there may have been, wasn't worth the money.
However, he went on to suggest that the price of this one might make it better.

Hi,
The hypocrisy amongst the subjectivists is astounding.

My take is that speakers and amplifiers make a difference, and perhaps DAC's do too, if i exclude discrete R2R and NOS (i am excluding vinyl too). Everything else is pure imagination.

For this fuse, and any other, then it plays on peoples expectation. For a component that is designed to fail, then £4k is a lot of money.

Regards,
Shadders.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

However, he went on to suggest that the price of this one might make it better.

The only people who should be pleased by that line of thinking are the likes of Future Shop and the fuse maker in question.

 

[Gray]

The only people who should be pleased by that line of thinking are the likes of Future Shop and the fuse maker in question.

It's surely the makers' unofficial business model .

For those that like a challenge, see if you can think of a more useless product, that's currently available to buy.

(Unless in a transparent plug in an unhidden socket - you wouldn't even see it.
Apart from being financially poorer, you would have no clue that you actually owned it 🤔).

 

[Dom]

Its criminal behaviour for sure.
Its not worth more than 50p.

 

[Friesiansam]

Really?

Yes, really!

From the link above: "Please note: fuses are directional, so please ensure you install your fuse accordingly. If you are not sure on the correct direction, simply try it both ways- you will be able to hear the difference. "

 

[Friesiansam]

For those that like a challenge, see if you can think of a more useless product, that's currently available to buy.

Would need to be something like a rubber spanner...

 

[Gray]

Would need to be something like a rubber spanner...

That would have some entertainment value - and could be a brightly coloured kids toy.

It's wrong to say this fuse is useless.
It would be of use to replace a blown one.
But unless you could one day salvage its silver content, it has no additional value over a 21p fuse.

(Some standard fuses even have silver end caps).

 

[Dom]

QSA use the worlds only MMMAT (Musical Metal Molecule Alignment Technology) and MAT (Metal Active Technology) for greater conductivity.

 

[Gray]

'Dear Futureshop
I note from your website that you are 'very excited' to introduce the QSA fuse.

However, today I was reading a forum where the participants were comparing it to a rival product with regard to its usefulness.

After careful consideration they put the (£4,200) fuse in second place.
The rival product was a rubber spanner.

I think you can assume that these people do not share your excitement'.

 

[Al ears]

Would need to be something like a rubber spanner...

Chocolate fire-guard?

 

[nopiano]

Makes you wonder how they can get away with ignoring regs.
Just as well they probably only sell, what do we reckon? 1 maybe 2 of them in a year? If that.

It’s possible that they have never made any, let alone sold any. It could just be a ruse to market the ‘cheaper’ ones at £50 or whatever, and the buyer thinks they are getting some of the silly priced version’s ‘benefits’.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

It’s possible that they have never made any, let alone sold any. It could just be a ruse to market the ‘cheaper’ ones at £50 or whatever, and the buyer thinks they are getting some of the silly priced version’s ‘benefits’.

It's a well-known tactic - you may well be right.

 

[Edbostan]

Really?

The power of the mind

 

[jayukguy147]

That product would actually not make me buy from them!!

 

[Gray]

That product would actually not make me buy from them!!

....we've found a purpose for it 👍

 

[Samd]

I think the other thing with these fuses is the mismatch between what it might reasonably cost to make them and the asking price is of such magnitude that it beggars belief. I'm sure the manufacturers would say that they are amortising the costs of their 'decades of research', and that others would say they are looking to part (rich) fools from their money. I suspect no-one needs ask which way forum sentiment leans!

Perhaps their marketing is aimed to con-fuse!

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Perhaps their marketing is aimed to con-fuse!

Now that's wince-inducing!

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

It’s possible that they have never made any, let alone sold any. It could just be a ruse to market the ‘cheaper’ ones at £50 or whatever, and the buyer thinks they are getting some of the silly priced version’s ‘benefits’.

Anchoring (cognitive bias) - Wikipedia

 

[plastic penguin]

Bottom line is:
Compared with one from the Toolstation 10- pack, there are just two differences.

1) It doesn't have the electrical approval.
2) It costs 20,000 times as much.

The more you think about it, the more scandalous it seems.

(I must stop thinking about it).

View: https://youtu.be/5kbo8pUDcHQ

 

[nopiano]

Anchoring (cognitive bias) - Wikipedia

Thanks, that’s a really interesting article. I’d come across negotiation anchoring but didn’t recognise the term ‘anchor’.

I recall an apocryphal and ancient story about a wife selling her husband’s goats at market when he was unwell. She misheard his recommendation on price and asked significantly more, but was so sure it was right she persisted and achieved the price. When she got home he could scarcely believe it!

On reflection that’s probably not a good example, but it’s a clever story.

 

[podknocker]

Anchoring (cognitive bias) - Wikipedia

Fantastic article and does make me wonder how many sites use this tactic, to 'steer' customers towards cheaper, but still way too pricey products. It would be interesting, to place an order, to see if it came up with 'out of stock' at the checkout and, indeed, was a ghost product. A bit risky, however, if this thing is actually available. I'd hope you could cancel the order, before the product was shipped. Scary.

 

[Friesiansam]

Fantastic article and does make me wonder how many sites use this tactic, to 'steer' customers towards cheaper, but still way too pricey products. It would be interesting, to place an order, to see if it came up with 'out of stock' at the checkout and, indeed, was a ghost product. A bit risky, however, if this thing is actually available. I'd hope you could cancel the order, before the product was shipped. Scary.

I have an email address and false identity, for exactly this kind of purpose, so my true identity is not disclosed. I went all the way to where I was required to enter card details, no problem. Appears you can order the fuse.

 

[podknocker]

I have an email address and false identity, for exactly this kind of purpose, so my true identity is not disclosed. I went all the way to where I was required to enter card details, no problem. Appears you can order the fuse.

Wow! That is scary. I'm now wondering if this range of fuses, like lots of stuff online, was actually priced at something fairly reasonable and someone made a typo. The price that then appeared on the website, still attracted enough custom and the company just went with it. 'Look at these idiots, actually paying silly money, for a bit of wire, in a glass and metal tube, costing a few pence to manufacture'. They wouldn't correct the price and stop this trade, if it made them a fortune. There are many people out there, willing to buy this stuff. I'm not one of them.

 

[Dom]

Well apparently he uses graphene but it still wont make any difference.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Well apparently he uses graphene but it still wont make any difference.

Now I believe that graphene is an excellent conductor, though what use it is replacing an inch in the supply is beyond me.