This bloke tells the truth about the KEF LS 50. It's amazing what a non "sponsored" (Cough cough paid reviewer) will say about a product. 2012 What Hifi product of the year my ***!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkCL2ZLwaLg
You, sir, are wearing some "one-track mind"-coloured glasses.... Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad review, but it's just as subjective as the WHF ones - HE doesn't like them. Actually, the WHF ones are more objective, since they have the price consideration in mind - which that guy obviously doesn't. I mean yes, I like (some) 2-3k pound speakers more than (some) 800 pound speakers as well. And funnily enough, when asked in the comments what speakers he likes, he replied "good question" or something like that, so obviously he's spoiled with with some higher end and properly matched gear.This bloke tells the truth about the KEF LS 50. It's amazing what a non "sponsored" (Cough cough paid reviewer) will say about a product. 2012 What Hifi product of the year my ***!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkCL2ZLwaLg
Yep. Finding it very hard to care...You, sir, are wearing some "one-track mind"-coloured glasses....
Firstly, the 'TRUTH' in subjective matters such as this, is only what you perceive it to be. A subjective personal opinion can only be true to your own beliefs, but isn't a fact in any supportable sense.
I just sat through this video, and it's pretty useless to most people. It really is simply a stream of consciousness. At times he contradicts himself. For example, he states that the bass is tuneless but then later on describes it as detailed. How can tuneless bass be detailed? Pitch definition is one of the most crucial aspects of detailed reproduction.
I've had my LS50 Metas for two days and I've spent around 10 hours listening so far. I've never heard the original LS50s, and I know that the most significant change is the use of the meta material in preventing reflections from the rear of the tweeter. I obviously can't say how much impact this has had.
Yes, these are amplifier sensitive speakers and they need strong current delivery. I've tried mine with my NAD C368 and with my Musical Fidelity M2si. Neither amp could be described as wimpy, but whereas the NAD outputs 80wpc into both 8 and 4 ohms, the MF nearly doubles its output into 4 ohms - 73wpc into 8 ohms, and 137 wpc into 4. The NAD doesn't break into a sweat with the KEFs and delivers good detail levels and dynamics, but its very clear to me that the MF grips the KEFs better, offering a more rhythmic sound, more openness and more stable soundstaging. With the MF driving the KEFs, the hi-fi disappears more, leaving the music centre-stage.
The reviewer in the video complains that 'backing instruments' don't fall back into the background enough. He claims that his LS3/5a place vocals more up-front with the instruments sounding less detailed. Fair enough if he prefers the relaxing Sunday afternoon sound he refers to, but that just isn't how live music sounds. In live performance voices don't sound magically bigger than the instruments being played with them and those instruments generallly aren't reduced to being mere backing. Much live music making is about the contributions of every musician on stage.
I also watched the same reviewer's 'Top 5 Tips' video in which he makes big statements about very slow progress in hi-fi over the past 30-40 years, and about how everything is essentially marketing. He also suggests that users of vintage kit know this, and that's why they use vintage kit. Yes, there is a huge amount of marketing in modern hi-fi as there is in any part of modern life, but you've got to have your eyes closed if you think there isn't a different kind of marketing in the world of vintage hi-fi gear. The amount of kit described as 'legendary' and the eye-watering prices of big old Sansui and Pioneer amps (for example) is clear evidence of how the vintage market may offer some great pieces, but also takes huge advantage of constantly perpetuated myths, legends and rose tinted spectacles.
This guy is entitled to his own thoughts and opinions, but stating them as 'TRUTH' is a step too far.
I've had my LS50 Metas for two days and I've spent around 10 hours listening so far. I've never heard the original LS50s, and I know that the most significant change is the use of the meta material in preventing reflections from the rear of the tweeter. I obviously can't say how much impact this has had.
Hi Matthew
I was on this forum years ago (under another name, I didn't post that much), always fascinated reading about your hifi journey, I see you are still buying a lot of gear (not a criticism, it's your money).
You must spend a small fortune ... do you have a goal or do you just like experimenting with different kit?
Thanks
I'm starting to feel as though I may have reached an end game.
The KEF LS50 is supposed to be a giant killer! It should easily be able to beat an LS35a.
Probably because people follow that stupid "spend as much as you can on speakers" rule I've seen some people toss around, and partner them with Nad D3020Its all subjective however I do read that KEF LS 50 seems to appear quite frequently on the second hand market unlike for Eg ATC speakers....?
Its all subjective however I do read that KEF LS 50 seems to appear quite frequently on the second hand market unlike for Eg ATC speakers....?
Probably because people follow that stupid "spend as much as you can on speakers" rule I've seen some people toss around, and partner them with Nad D3020
(and yes, I'm not big on Kef myself, but not because they're bad)
The KEF LS50 is supposed to be a giant killer! It should easily be able to beat an LS35a.
atc are all over the place ( some eBay right now) along with pmc. Think it has more to do with popularity of these brands more than anything
Probably because people follow that stupid "spend as much as you can on speakers" rule I've seen some people toss around
Here's a copy pasta from a recent thread on Sonos Connect Amp + B&W CM1.The best speaker in the world can't come close to the low distortion of even budget amplifiers these days, so paying the most for speakers makes perfect sense.
Here's a copy pasta from a recent thread on Sonos Connect Amp + B&W CM1.
"You're right. At lower volumes it was indistinguishable when casually listening - I had to concentrate to notice a difference. At a loss of the right terminology, I'd say the sound became a bit more unclear/compressed. At very high volumes the sound was distorted and I had to turn it down. It was especially apparent in the bass region."
But, as always, believe whatever you wanna believe.
Sounds like clickbait to me!This bloke tells the truth about the KEF LS 50. It's amazing what a non "sponsored" (Cough cough paid reviewer) will say about a product. 2012 What Hifi product of the year my ***!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkCL2ZLwaLg
The best speaker in the world can't come close to the low distortion of even budget amplifiers these days, so paying the most for speakers makes perfect sense.