speakers placement

Because the speakers are front ported, there's no reason (in theory) why they shouldn't sound pretty good close to a back wall. In fact, they may benefit from a bit of boundary reinforcement.

So I'd say it just comes down to what sounds best to you.

Matt
 
I have the 23s which are alos front ported and I did find they improved the bass when i brought them further off the wall. It was a small difference mainly in the bass area. Mine are only about 18 inches off the wall now.
 
Hi Animesh,

matt49 is quite correct in that speaker placement is a very personal thing. Generally bringing speakers away from the back wall, and more importantly maybe corners, will sometimes improve the overall sound stage. Bass response may also be improved but this is not always the case. Some people cannot hear any improvement at all by doing simply this. Practicality also enters the equation, just how far can you move them out before placement becomes a nusance, or the wife complains?

I would suggest you probably already have them in at an ideal distance but it will cost nothing to move then another 4 inches and listening again.

My current speakers are tall front-ported floorstanders and interestingly enough, in my room, I found presentation better overall by moving them closer to the wall than the manufacturer recommended.
 
measure distance from floor to bass driver centre..That gives the worst distance from the wall. Lota of science & maths to give u answers but (imo), there are so many room variables that experimentation is the only option. Balance beteween bass, timing & soundstage etc., is acheived thru small positional tweaks.

I feel the need for a good tweak.
 

Its not so personal when you actually measure it you can really flatten your response curve a lot. There is plenty of measuring tools: Apple store, audyssey in most cinema amps, pro audio etc.. Alway go one speaker at the time , measure then move. You will discover your room/speaker interaction quickly. It will show you the way. At the end youll find the balance between imaging and flat response. It should also confirm an aspect of your sound you dont like and pin à good understanding of it. I personaly dont like a 2db at 1khz rise in my system. I also know its the room since I measure my speakers in the bassement too. I beleive you must understand and measure If you wanna get to another level. You cant ask anyone because its your room.
 
I shall be applying the guide I reckon I have it almost spot on as per the guide in my rectangular room firing across the room. It takes me about 10 moves after moving my speakers to get the imaging and Magic back. It was the same when I had my PMC DB1i's. It's so so important.
 
I might have to have a look at some of these apps, are there any in particular I should look for?

The problem I have in my room is that its long and narrow at approximately 7' x 18' with my listening position about two thirds towards one end. It means I have to have the speakers quite close to the walls in order to get the width apart to triangulate with the distance to my seat. I suppose I could narrow them and bring them closer to me but I find they work better when wider apart.
 
CnoEvil said:
shafesk said:
Cno, that is the hardest guide that I have ever had to fathom.?

Hifi, especially speakers, is supposed to be infinitely baffling...

Very good 🙂

I tried various positions with the ATC's, position relative to rear wall made little difference. Don't have much freedom in the separation distance, so I'm listening in an isosceles position where I'm around 1.5 times the distance apart of each speaker. Toe in helps too, that worth experimenting with.
 
I'm actually equal distance in that triangle with a fair degree of toe in. I used a piece of cord to measure the distance between the centre of the drivers (Tannoy DC6 SE's) and then cut two lengths to form a triangle and then moved my seat to the focal point of the triangle. I think I may need to edge the toe-in out a bit though as the highs can be a bit shrill.
 

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